Guild Wars 2

Hello everyone, im quite new to this game and i really like to play necro, but i was wondering if necro is good for pve. I heard someone said that they are kicked from dungeons and that necro is not very good for pve. I appriciate all feedback. Thank you.

I don’t seem to have any trouble (new level 80 necromancer over the last few weeks). I find power mancers good for pve, with dagger and focus, and staff

If you are on EU you will probably get kicked from fractal and dungeon groups. The class is bad for PvE and even casual groups on EU are quite restrictive and fussy.

Ive heard on NA you should still be able to find groups that will accept you. But the class is still unpopular due to its issues.

We are all kind of waiting for HoT to improve the class in PvE. Over 2 years of being a selfish and undesirable class in PvE is pretty frustrating.

spoj.9672:

We are all kind of waiting for HoT to improve the class in PvE. Over 2 years of being a selfish and undesirable class in PvE is pretty frustrating.

What is so selfish about that class?

Silenderon.7546:

spoj.9672:

We are all kind of waiting for HoT to improve the class in PvE. Over 2 years of being a selfish and undesirable class in PvE is pretty frustrating.

What is so selfish about that class?

From what I understand as a new-ish player myself, Necromancers do not have the ability, or only have a weak ability, to heal others. We can only heal ourselves. Therefore, we’re refereed to as a selfish class.

We lack finishers and useful fields to take advantage of the combo finisher/field system. Which is an integral part of group interaction in all gametypes. We lack useful and meaningful utility such as projectile defence and group buffing (hugely important in PvE). We lack unique types of utility like portal and stealth. And have no unique group buffs such as warrior banners, ranger spirits, empower allies, strength in numbers and spotter.

Its easier to explain when you look at what other classes have. Necro definitely has some stuff. But most of it is pretty mediocre and often less accessible and in less abundance than on other classes.

Endless Soul.5178:

From what I understand as a new-ish player myself, Necromancers do not have the ability, or only have a weak ability, to heal others. We can only heal ourselves. Therefore, we’re refereed to as a selfish class.

That’s not true. If you were to build for it you can practically become a traditional type of healer. Necro has great healing skills like Transfusion ad I’d say Well of Blood but I realized its terrible since the nerf. Anyway, none of that is needed in any of the content whatsoever. Negation or avoidance is what you use in PvE to deal with incoming damage, all the healing you will ever need will be supplied by your own healing skill. And if you for any reason do require healing outside of your own healing skill a water field and blasts from the classes with access to them will be more than enough.

The reason why Necro is selfish is because we do not offer anything a party needs, and no party should need party wide healing. Healing is not worthwhile support. Negation is. That means Protection, Aegis, Vigor, Blind, Reflect etc. Ideally things should die before they start killing you through attrition. Things die faster via high Might, perma Fury and Vuln stacks as well as party wide damage boosts such as Spotter or Empower. Necro can offer none of these things to a party apart from Vuln, which Engi does much better while offering most of the other said things as well.

Thanks for the clarification. I sometimes still think in Guild Wars 1 terms (kinda hard to shake 10 years of conditioning), even though I’m well aware that these are two completely different games.