Guild Wars 2

I placed this same thread in the mesmer and WvW section in hopes of trying to figure out which to play next…

I’m just wondering what you all suggest in leveling a “clothie.” I played a GS Mesmer back in the day and really liked the class even though I felt like a huge target to d/d Thieves. I also have a d/d ele right now at level 80 but I’m sick of trying to make him effective. I have seen a few vids of the terrormancer in eotm just trolling people (which looks fun). Of the two though, I’m not sure which would be better for solo roaming.
I’m very familiar with the mesmer class but don’t know a great deal about the necro. From what I hear, they can play several viable builds (condi, power, CC) and are easy/quick to level. I also hear they do well in PvE and sPvP and are overall, pretty effective.

My main goal in playing a clothie is just to roam around and create havoc for the enemy. I’ll be honest by saying the idea of being a complete troll is appealing.
What do you all suggest?

Mesmer.

Necros are walking tickle machines that die when you breathe on them.

Mesmers are annoying and if you’re good you dont really die. You can disappear across the map if being chased by too many people.

Iridi.8473:

Mesmer.

Necros are walking tickle machines that die when you breathe on them.

Mesmers are annoying and if you’re good you dont really die. You can disappear across the map if being chased by too many people.

Tickle machines, lol?

I have a Mesmer and a Necro at similar stats (power specced, mostly zerker) and the Mesmer is the tickle machine. Its not even close to the Necro in terms of damage. Sure you can shatter burst – assuming the enemy didnt dodge or the clones didnt go full kitten and shattered a nearby grey frog to death. Meanwhile, the Necro will hit for the same damage with ds autoattack.

What the Mesmer have is more survivability when outmanned. Get away skills, lots of boons with the addition of stealth and constant confusion (as in clones everywhere, not confusion confusion) can make them a very hard target, true.

Personally I find the Mesmer the superior solo roamer simply due to escape skills, but anything above the Necro will beat it by far. Small skirmishes the Necro will be very dangerous, whereas the Mesmer is mostly just annoying. Larger fights, well there is no competition. In zerg battles, even the survivability shifts in favor of the Necro.

So, I’m assuming the mesmer forum is pitching their reasons to play mesmer over Necro, where as here, we basically have someone saying necro hits like a puff of air, so I will pitch the good sides of necro:

Here’s why you would want to play necro:
1) DAMAGE!: Necro has unrealistic amounts of damage. Power or Condi, they both do heavy damage for their specific field. While much of our dps is single target, it is mixed with some nice AOE skills.

2) Control: Holy kitten, the control is awesome! We have an AOE immobilize, instant cast fears, and chill that never ends. You can basically end any mobility of you really have to! I play power necro, and I can immob+fear to set up a nice little 8k unavoidable burst

3) Tanky: Even zerker, Necro’s high base health makes it very tacky. Combine that with death shroud and you can tank a lot of hits while doing a lot of damage.

4) Really an overall fun class:
Necro is just overall fun. The ability to watch guardians stack boons and then use corrupt noon and watch them freak out is priceless. The stupidly high amounts of AOE dps is real fun to mess around with. And most of all: FEAR! Fear people off cliffs! Fear people off of towers, fear people into you friendly camp, fear people into water, fear people into the veteran with, fear people into a glitch spot, fear them across the map!!!
Also, you are IMMUNE TO FALL DAMAGE! That’s right, jump all the way to the bottom of Rata Sum without dieing!

????DISCLAIMER???? I am a WvWer only. So all of this applies to WvW

Necromancers are great in small skirmish WvW and pvp imo. They are definitely better than mesmer at zerging in wvw or eotm.

Pros: high damage, naturally tanky, massive cc, condition control, and 2 teamfight changing elite skills.

Cons: always focused, low mobility, low access to stability, no invulnerability abilities, and weak choice for high level pve content.