Guild Wars 2

Hey all!

So I’ve read a lot of threads and comments about how terrible the “balancing” was given as to how it really hit the playstyle and dps output of chill reapers but given that, I would like to hear “professional” opinions on how viable Reapers are now in raids and fractals.

Are they still viable classes to bring? If so, what build, power or condi?

Also, is it still worth the time and effort to collect vipers atm?

Please don’t turn this into another rant thread, we have enough of those already!

no they are dead

gin.7158:

no they are dead

dead, burried and forgotten

Hi,
Condi reaper is still amazing. The modification of Deadly chill is good for raid, you will do more bleeds. Don’t listen QQ, make your viper build.
The power necro is buffed here I will give a try next time !

In a Raid setting the changes lowered the Condi Reaper’s DPS slightly, however you can now stack Reapers without overwriting the damage.
With full Raid buffs and 100% Bleeding duration the new Deathly Chill applies roughly 2900 damage over 16 seconds according to my calculations, so unless you manage to apply Chill every 3rd second it is a DPS nerf compared to the old trait.
It is IMO an unwarranted nerf to PvE and Raid players, but I agree with the idea of the stacking/overwriting problem.
I think it would be better if the trait applied e.g. 2 stacks of 8 s torment instead.

Edit: I also think the Whirl finisher nerf on RS4 was totally unneeded, we barely have any finishers at all, why nerf the only useful one we have?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4fifj4/reapers_chill_damage_removed/

Aesa.4819:

In a Raid setting the changes lowered the Condi Reaper’s DPS slightly, however you can now stack Reapers without overwriting the damage.
With full Raid buffs and 100% Bleeding duration the new Deathly Chill applies roughly 2900 damage over 16 seconds according to my calculations, so unless you manage to apply Chill every 3rd second it is a DPS nerf compared to the old trait.
It is IMO an unwarranted nerf to PvE and Raid players, but I agree with the idea of the stacking/overwriting problem.
I think it would be better if the trait applied e.g. 2 stacks of 8 s torment instead.

Edit: I also think the Whirl finisher nerf on RS4 was totally unneeded, we barely have any finishers at all, why nerf the only useful one we have?

This is a superb post. I would prefer 2 stacks of bleeds to torment.

Also the flat nerf to RS 4, very UN needed. Ok less hits but the hits could use a tiny .1 buff to compensate.

My rotation is all weird, you can’t do RS 5 with RS 3 on during the entire RS 4 animation and makes fear bombing after a non thing now, or you get cc’ed in the middle. Feels really weird now, more like rushing to get a rotation in, or not a rotation just waiting to use it or not at all.