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I’ll be 80 soon. How’s this build look for power/DS in PvE? Might venture into WvW with this too, but I have almost no WvW experience so I’m sure SoU will need to be swapped out for something. Is SoU necessary given my build?

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yea dont use SoU unless you are in a cooradinated group or roaming with friends. the main problem youll encounter with this build is condo. so you can switch SoU for Plauge signet or if you want you can use a dagger OH and use #4 for the condi removal. Yes i know you have the heal but that wont be enough especially against a necro.
also if you plan on zerging you might what to go with a build with a staff. if you step in the the center you mostlikely will get crushed. also i would swap you endurance sigil to sigil of force for extra dps I actually run a similar build but mine is focused on survivability insted of crit.
for your elite, i find anything other the golem to high of a cd but thats my opinion. i run golem for the knock back and believe it or not he does good damage, but thats your choice.

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

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For PvE I would drop some soldiers and pick up knights/zerker for your armor. For trinkets find a mix of Knights/Cavaliers/zerker. Basically Find your desired tankyness then fill the rest with zerker gear. As for weapons I personally use staff and switch dagger and axe as needed for the fights.

Fury up time from your runes is kinda a waste, your already at 50% crit and most of your damage will be coming from DS so you’ll have 100% in DS and the fury will be wasted. I would go all ruby orbs for the stat boost or another rune set that focuses on damage or stat increases.

I would move the 20 points in Curses to spite to pick up close to death. On average you will be getting a lot of LF back quite often so vital persistence is kinda meh.

For WvW I run 30/10/0/0/30 staff axe/wh (dagger/wh for roaming) traits similar to what i said above but the 10 in curses is for chilling darkness for plague and path of midnight to get life transfer and tainted shackles up faster. Gear is a mix of knights and zerker, trinkets are a mix of cavaliers/knights, basically as before build to desired tankyness and ~50% crit then stack crit damage and power.

As for SoU, I run it in dungeons because people are kitten, so having that rez can be life saver. The LF is nice but not super needed. For WvW your utility skills will be different depending on what your doing. If its zerging Well of corruption/darkness are great to have, they will help your team quite a bit and darkness will increase your survivability. Spectral wall is a good choice for when your stack pushes or to place in a choke to fear people with out stability. Other than that it comes down to play style, are you a pug in the group and not worrying about the group comp, or if your just looking for max tags.

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I made a few changes for you, kind of along the lines Zikory was talking about but a little bit different. This is pretty close to what I used to run in wvw and it works pretty good. Just swap out spectral grasp for either spectral wall or well of darkness like he mentioned should you choose to run with the zerg (also highly recommend swapping to staff for zerg running and losing the daggers- change the dagger trait to something like transfusion or even mark of evasion). This build will work just fine in pve too. You’re going to hit pretty hard, but with all that zerk on you, your survivability is still going to be kind of low so stay on the move. I changed the food you were using too to reflect that.
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@Mystogan: Yep, I have dagger/dagger in 1 set so I figured that + my heal would suffice for cond removal. Wasn’t sure what else to use instead of SoU. Enduranace Sigil is because I’ve heard that lack of vigor is one of the biggest problems for necros. Thought this would help with survivability. Esp cuz I main an engi and am used to lotsa endurance. I like golem elite too but I thought it’d die too easily in dungeons or WvW so Plague would be a beast every few mins.

@Zikory: Good call on the Fury. I’ll change that. I’ll test out the 30 in Spite vs Curses. That makes sense. Biggest issue was that I didn’t know how much LF I’d be getting. Things like SoU, Spectral Armor/Walk, Axe#2, Vital Persistence, & Reaper’s Precision all return LF and I didn’t know how much I’d need to maintain decent DS uptime. I didn’t want to go too lite on them and then be constantly stuck using my axes.

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Posted by: Mystogan.4157

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i dont find endurance to be a problem mostly because im pretty tanky and i dodge whenever i can

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

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@Mystogan: Yep, I have dagger/dagger in 1 set so I figured that + my heal would suffice for cond removal. Wasn’t sure what else to use instead of SoU. Enduranace Sigil is because I’ve heard that lack of vigor is one of the biggest problems for necros. Thought this would help with survivability. Esp cuz I main an engi and am used to lotsa endurance. I like golem elite too but I thought it’d die too easily in dungeons or WvW so Plague would be a beast every few mins.

@Zikory: Good call on the Fury. I’ll change that. I’ll test out the 30 in Spite vs Curses. That makes sense. Biggest issue was that I didn’t know how much LF I’d be getting. Things like SoU, Spectral Armor/Walk, Axe#2, Vital Persistence, & Reaper’s Precision all return LF and I didn’t know how much I’d need to maintain decent DS uptime. I didn’t want to go too lite on them and then be constantly stuck using my axes.

Yeah give the 30 in spite a try, I’m not going to say its better because in the end its about fun and play style. If you remember to use spectral armor/walk while taking damage you will never run out of LF. SoU is meh, I don’t think you would really notice the LF you get from it but I like to keep it on hand for roaming and dungeons as a fail safe. For PvE running Axe staff you’ll normally only use Axe for axe #2 then you might as well switch to staff till you have LF for DS then just Life blast for a while. But in the end you won’t have a lot of issues with LF excluding a few single target fights.

As for Elites, golem is a nice set and forget elite imo, since you will have a lot of power I would stick with lich form, dude hits like a truck! And the stability from the elite is nice to have as well. Plague is the go to for zerging. Roaming its all up in the air, I’v used them all and its situational.

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Posted by: Seras.5702

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Yea I meant Lich. I updated my last post with my newest build version.

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So the one thing I don’t like and this is just my personal opinion, Is swiftness duration. Mainly because I focus on WvW and group comps but I don’t feel that anyone should have to personally focus on swiftness while most people in a group will have access to a AoE swiftness to stack. I just feel its a wasted rune spot for 20% swiftness duration. But if that gives you 100% up time on swiftness and that’s what you want, I understand to point of few.

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Posted by: Seras.5702

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I’m inexperienced with necro. I haven’t hit 80 quite yet and sometimes I pick traits and gems because I don’t know what would be better and because I don’t have any practical application yet to draw upon to know if it’s needed. Like bringing too many/not enough LF generators.

I figured with no access to vigor and with dagger and DS being close range weapons I’d want swiftness as much as possible to stay in range.

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