Guild Wars 2

I think there is one undeniable way to establish who is right here. On one side we have group of people claiming that (berserker) meta is the only way to be efficient at high level Fractals, while on the other hand we have Nemesis (there are more people for sure, but he stands out) who claims that (berserker) meta is a lie and that it was Icebow meta.

Now, here is (more or less) simple test for both sides which can show who is right and who is not:

I challenge both sides to form party of their choosing and do as many Fractals as they want and record and present any run they wish (I assume they would want to show fastest run, but who knows). However, there are some rules.

1. “Berserker meta” party should obviously use only berserker builds. “Berserker meta” party cannot have Necromancers or Rangers in it.

2. “Anti berserker meta” party must have at least one Necromancer and/or Ranger (preferably 1 of each). “Anti berserker meta” party can use any set up they want (even if it is full berserker since the “berserker meta” excludes Necromancer and Rangers), however, for sake of everyone I hope they will use more diverse build setup.

3. They will agree on number of maps and which maps they will test so that certain mechanics don’t affect one type of builds. I suggest that each team suggests 2 maps which means they will have to test between 2 and 4 maps (preferably 2). At the end they must show best run for each map.

If they agree on it, they can select only 1 map of course.

4. Build changing is allowed but as long as it doesn’t affect type of the build in which the Fractal started (no changing power to condition or hybrid damage build for example).

5. Since the point of meta in general is to present ways to do things in most efficient way, each video must show run from the moment teams are in until the moment last boss is dead. This is to account for build changing, since spending time to change build before encounter is not really efficient and goes against the very idea of meta setup.

You can both keep presenting your calculations, but I don’t think average Joe will understand half of it. However, I do think that this is situation that needs a closure because meta has divided community and created toxicity and that is a FACT. Now let’s see if it was justified or it was just BS created by certain minority which majority accepted without asking questions.

People like you and Nemesis are the ones that help creating the very toxicity you want to fight by making YT videos and forum-posts like this. It is laughtable easy to avoid all this stuff in the game itself.

People like you and Nemesis, who don’t understand what “Meta” acually means and where it comes, are a part of the problem.

Nemesis own post about this was closed shortly after he made it, and I hope this one won’t last any longer.

This is not a flaming thread. I have no idea who would win. This is just idea about a way we can finally establish who is right and be done with it. Just because something is out of the forum doesn’t mean it is out of the game. There are people still being discriminated based on their profession and that is something that affects those players.

My suggestion is about how to end all forum, reddit, youtube, map chat and other wars regarding this issue.