Guild Wars 2

I was thinking about how all professions have three different types of elites, and they usually have some sort of trait that buffs their elites. Having played no classes high enough to actually get elites except on my 80 Necro and 40 Engineer I don’t have first hand experience with the elites of other professions elites aside from 10-20 minutes in the mists.

The first thing that comes to mind for me is my Engineer. Its elites are Elixer X, Supply Crate, and Mortar. The first trait they have to buff their elites is probably their Alchemy trait line, 10 point major trait II – Elixers recharge 20% faster. This affects their elite, Elixer X’s recharge. Next in the same trait line is VIII – Increase elixer duration by 20%, and then XI – All elixers give 20s of might. All these work on their Elixer X which as an engineer I find pretty flippin awesome.

Those are all specific to one though, but they also have on their Inventions trait line, 20 point major trait IX – The supply crate has more supplies, Elixer X lasts longer, and the Mortar has increased range.

This all made me wonder why we have TWO transform abilities. Lich Form is pretty darn good (if a bit squishy IMO). Plague Form is good as well, but only because of the perma-blind and increased health and toughness. It’s basically a panic button to hit and hopefully live a bit longer. Summon Flesh Golem is a pretty powerful elite too for any build, even more so for a MM build. Most people are actually pigeon holed into using Ol’ Fleshy because there really aren’t any other elites worth taking. But Plague form makes me wonder why it even exists. It has pretty limited uses although I used it as my go to elite for the longest time for tanking situations, and to run away.

Why not do away with Plague form and give us an Elite Well? We don’t have a trait that gives us a bonus to ALL of our elites, but this way we would at least have an elite other than Flesh Golem that benefits from traits – and they are traits that many people already use, unlike the minion traits.

It could be an extremely large radius Well, 2x normal radius or so and have multiple effects. I’d love to say make it convert boons on foes to conditions, and conditions on allies to boons but that one elite would completely negate two of our utilities.

I’m not sure what the effects could be – I’m not a theorycrafter, and I won’t attempt to try – but all I know is I REALLY think we need a Well elite. Lich Form is our spectral-ish elite (would be awesome if it benefited from spectral traits and I think needs to be considered spectral), Flesh Golem is our minion elite. Why shouldn’t we have a different elite that goes in line with our other skills?

Ol’ fleshy is so popular because it is the only well designed Elite we have
Lich and plague both need to go. Period.
They are not supported by any traits besides DD and condition traits
Why does lich even have those five jaggies??
We need a well and a spectral elite.
Spectral should feature something truly terrifying, like teleport and fear
well should be centered around complete controll:
chill, vuln and poison for enemies, and might, regen and vigor for allies.
But then again, we also need a DS rework and new traits

I like the idea of a Well Elite skill. Bravo. Although I think my wells build is slightly OP. If I got my hands on a Well Elite, I would be unstoppable
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Unstoppable..
Unless you fight someone who doesn’t stand in the red circles. o-o

It truly saddens me we will never see the light of day of this idea..

Lorelei.3918:

Unstoppable..
Unless you fight someone who doesn’t stand in the red circles. o-o

A necro with a wells build can make the whole area of the fight a big red circle.

To the point. An elite well skill would be great

Just for the note, Plague Form isn’t useless and isn’t “weak”. I for one use it on WvW for lest say, make my entire team not take damage while they deal a kittenon of damage to enemies. I can also help reviving/finishing ppl by blinding enemies and all. I just believe the other conditions in Plague Form should be actually buffed to be on par with the blind.

I know Plague Form isn’t useless, I actually use it myself a fair bit in WvW and PvE. It just seems to be that it is the least useful overall elite we have. People only use it for the blind, and the damage is negligible. If I had to drop any of our elites for a new Well, personally I’d choose Plague.

I would love this. Wells are the best things about necros in my opinion, though I wish they had better visual effects.

Also, plague form is fine, they just need to buff 1&3 a little bit and make it work with our traits. I use all 3 of them a lot. Got enemies that are immune to blind, but need to protect your allies? Use the Weakness Plague (Dredge Fractal comes to mind). Just need to damage up with added bonus of constant stability? Use the bleeding plague.

IMO The most lackluster Elite is Plague form, it’s nice for stalling and it can be pretty devastating in crowds, but lacks that little thing to make it awesome (I still use it anyway).

I said ages ago I think any Conditions you get while or before you go into plague form get added to whatever Plague you’re using for example Get chilled while using the Blind/poison one adds chill too. I mean it is a Plague so why not get extra ones?

Litch form is cool, I like it again it can be good taking down people or crowds of people, I do agree the Jagged horror swarm is lame (would be better is jagged horrors did something like explode in poison after they die then you have 5 Time bombs). Also I’d shrink the Litch a bit so it’s a smaller target I know you’re meant to be a more powerful form but you may as well put a big target on you’re head it would be more subtle.

Flesh Golem would just need an AI upgrade (Like all minions/pets/phantasms/turrets)and it would be fine.

As for a Well Elite that would be interesting could pulse 3 Random conditions and damage Every 2 seconds, Big area, Extended time (so it’s a little longer than the normal wells), something like that.

The well elite should be a root or snare so you can drop it, then pile all your other wells on while the targets are stuck. Give it like a 90 or 120 second cooldown.

It would make too much sense for every class to have 1 elite of every skill type they use. That’s why this will never happen.

Gotta agree with this guy

We have Condition X 2 & Reversal X 2 Utilities for wells

How about a combinations well e.g. (Minions/Well/Conditions), does decent damage and all enemies that die inside the wells area while the well is active becomes a Burning suicidal corpse that runs at enemies and does massive burning AOE that would be fun, and it wouldnt break boss fights or PVP. Could make it a 100 second timer so as to make it useable in large army vs army fights XD

I’ve noticed this as well, but I’ve noticed it more with weapon skills. Some classes have skills that fall into a category and therefore benefit from traits. We have marks, but that’s it (no corruptions that aren’t skill point options, etc). It’d be nice to see more elite/weapon synergy with traits in general.