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Posted by: Roe.3679

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…So bad that you literally ended with 0 points? I played a match recently (against a premade with full pugs, mind you) that I was focused so mercilessly that I literally ended with no points at all. Whenever I showed up to a fight, I was immediately greeted by 2 and even 3 players chasing me as far as I could last all over the map. Whenever I actually downed someone, their team was there to help them back up and I obviously never got a kill.

The most frustrating thing was that even with them devoting seemingly all their resources to keeping me dead, my team couldn’t make any headway and capture any points. I wasn’t even the only person on my team with 0 points.

I mean clearly this was awful matchmaking, but it was one of the worst matches I’ve experienced. And before I get advice, I already run double energy sigils, Swalk, Wurm, and even warhorn. There was no hope of escape.

Does this happen to anyone else on their necros? It’s getting a little old for me.

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Posted by: flow.6043

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When this happens, and it does so rather often if you solo q, then I usually ask the other team in map chat to give me a quick decap so I at least get match participation.
You know, for that sweet sweet reward track loot…

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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And before I get advice, I already run double energy sigils, Swalk, Wurm, and even warhorn. There was no hope of escape.

Which kind of says it all, doesnt it?

PvP is not won by escaping. You dont get points by escaping. You dont have to use either spectral walk or wurm, there’s absolutely no point in using evasion skills. That is just going to make you loose matches. You are limiting yourself by using 2 out of 3 skills for absolutely no gain. You’re going to die in PvP and that’s perfectly fine, as long as you die on point and kill the enemy more. Imagine if the rest of your team decide to “hybrid” and use 2 out of 3 escape skills. All you’re going to do is escaping and getting cut down.

Go either full damage (ie zerker and meta spec) or full bunker (something like sentinel wellmancer or minionmaster). Some choose the middle road (like celestial) but tbh I fail to see the point. With either spec its pretty impossible to get 0 points unless your team is horribad – the bunker will always be in the thick of battle at the center point and probably be responsible for winning the match while the zerker will +1 slaughter everything in sight and necro bomb any major engagement.

When I played zerker I usually ended up among the top scorers every match. Bunker, not so much (hey you have to sacrifice something for trying to win).

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Posted by: Roe.3679

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And before I get advice, I already run double energy sigils, Swalk, Wurm, and even warhorn. There was no hope of escape.

Which kind of says it all, doesnt it?

PvP is not won by escaping. You dont get points by escaping. You dont have to use either spectral walk or wurm, there’s absolutely no point in using evasion skills. That is just going to make you loose matches. You are limiting yourself by using 2 out of 3 skills for absolutely no gain. You’re going to die in PvP and that’s perfectly fine, as long as you die on point and kill the enemy more. Imagine if the rest of your team decide to “hybrid” and use 2 out of 3 escape skills. All you’re going to do is escaping and getting cut down.

Go either full damage (ie zerker and meta spec) or full bunker (something like sentinel wellmancer or minionmaster). Some choose the middle road (like celestial) but tbh I fail to see the point. With either spec its pretty impossible to get 0 points unless your team is horribad – the bunker will always be in the thick of battle at the center point and probably be responsible for winning the match while the zerker will +1 slaughter everything in sight and *necro bomb any major engagement. *

When I played zerker I usually ended up among the top scorers every match. Bunker, not so much (hey you have to sacrifice something for trying to win).

Because you were so arrogant about your post, I’m going to put this bluntly: you sound like you are a low skill level player.

I bolded everything about your post that is either ignorant, completely out of touch with the meta, or indicative of low skill. Also, it’s lose with one O. Don’t get all preachy with grade school spelling errors, please.

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Posted by: Shaogin.2679

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Can’t say I’ve ever had it this bad. Usually if I know I’m being constantly focused and my team won’t communicate, I just make sure I run real close to as many team members as possible.

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

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Yes, but not exclusively on Necro…

Last time on Necro when it did happen, it was basically as you said… People camp you, and your team is nearly unable to do anything because it is both a pug and Conquest is sadly more than Necrositting…

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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I bolded everything about your post that is either ignorant, completely out of touch with the meta, or indicative of low skill. Also, it’s lose with one O. Don’t get all preachy with grade school spelling errors, please.

Not all of us are blessed with having English as first language, I’m afraid. I make mistakes. Next time I will use “lOse” as you point out. Looks a little odd, but whatever. Grammar is important.

Yes, I may be dellusional and out of touch but last time I checked the point of PvP was to stand on point. Take one point and you get points. Not sure why anyone would bring a Necro for its “mobility”.

I am assuming we are talking about random pug ranked matches here. If you get 0 points in top 2% premades, you just got seriously outplayed.

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Posted by: MethaneGas.8357

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Yes Roe… it happens to me too (more than once) and the worst part is when you KNOW you’ve done all you can – even nearly won 1v2 or lower someone’s health nicely in a 1v3, kiting really well and still the team does nothing. I already know you kick kitten wih Necro, and sometimes it just comes to a kittenty team. Might be best to play super defensive in those kinds of team cuz they don’t know their stuff and won’t help you unless you glue yourself in their field of vision.

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Posted by: MethaneGas.8357

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Also, Dawdler, I’m sorry, but no.

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Posted by: flow.6043

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Yes, I may be dellusional and out of touch but last time I checked the point of PvP was to stand on point. Take one point and you get points. Not sure why anyone would bring a Necro for its “mobility”.

I think you missed the point.
Roe had a bad team and necros can’t carry bad teams. Arguably they are the one class that is most dependant on allies being solid players. The fact that you sometimes end up with no points at all is bad luck in addition to that. So there probably wasn’t much he could’ve done to avoid the outcome, and there was absolutely no need to start lecturing him about his build, which I’m sure is a good build anyway.

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Posted by: Ragion.2831

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When this happens i can never understand it, ok beingchased by 3 people around the map with high chance of death but that means they have just 2 people capping and decapping while you have 4. So when i look up and see that we have no points capped, i wonder how bad must your team players be to not be able to cap when it is 4 v2.

For me personally it happens more in hotjoin, i don’t recall this happening in solo ranked.

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Posted by: Ragion.2831

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Arguably they are the one class that is most dependant on allies being solid players.

Completely true not arguable and it bothers me to no end.

Not sure why anyone would bring a Necro for its “mobility”.

Because at the end of it all necro is still a fun class to play.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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Roe had a bad team and necros can’t carry bad teams.

No class can carry bad teams. Even turret engies will melt if they arent supported and face multiple decent opponents (especially if one of them is a power necro that can AoE turrets). If you end up in a 1v3 situation, you’re not a bunker and not on point, you’re in the wrong place no matter your class. Which is why escaping is futile.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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a great thief and an amazing bunker guardian can carry bad teams. Even a great turret engi is just gonna get melted if he leaves his turrets or they will just leave him there to rot.

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Posted by: Player.8373

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I have had this bug that the wholle enemy team was kicked out of the match (with a few of ours ) so it was a 0v3

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Posted by: MethaneGas.8357

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If you end up in a 1v3 situation, you’re not a bunker and not on point, you’re in the wrong place no matter your class. Which is why escaping is futile.

That’s true to an extent, but really… if 4 of your team mates are messing around with 1 enemy at home point… of course you are gonna run into 1v3s and what not. You’re expecting them to kill the guy and come to mid (for example) within… 10 seconds or less, or that one of them, two of them, or even 3 of your allies will leave home and naturally come mid or whatever… but they don’t, and you get into bad situations because you assume to be in a competent team. It’s as simple as that… which is why I suggested to glue yourself to allies in a team like that because otherwise it’s impossiborru.

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