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Posted by: Gryph.8237

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LOL OMG THE GUY ON THE TWITCH STREAM RIGHT NOW LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Tim.6450

Tim.6450

Wait wait does Parasitic Contagion heals of your self inflicted conditions (and DS)?

It doesn’t.

I need to see this kitten through my own eyes. I guess it can get worse than now.

btw here is a picture of a test I just took.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Yeah I just checked it doesn’t heal you for self-inflicted condis. Good news is minion-inflicted condis do heal you.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

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LOL OMG THE GUY ON THE TWITCH STREAM RIGHT NOW LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair he did blood is power also, but the skill basicly sucks now :P

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

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LOL OMG THE GUY ON THE TWITCH STREAM RIGHT NOW LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair he did blood is power also, but the skill basicly sucks now :P

What’d he do?

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

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if you look at the engie that is playing right now, and his dmg output in less than 5 seconds, he does more damage than we can in 30 seconds. LOL

JUST LOL.

Necro died. It is dead.

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

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if you look at the engie that is playing right now, and his dmg output in less than 5 seconds, he does more damage than we can in 30 seconds. LOL

JUST LOL.

Necro died. It is dead.

Time to roll engi…

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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LOL OMG THE GUY ON THE TWITCH STREAM RIGHT NOW LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair he did blood is power also, but the skill basicly sucks now :P

What’d he do?

In PvP, he equipped Master of Corruption on a Rabid amulet, then popped all the corruptions but Epidemic.

Brought himself down to 6k health from full without even trying.

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Posted by: Shiki.7148

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LOL OMG THE GUY ON THE TWITCH STREAM RIGHT NOW LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair he did blood is power also, but the skill basicly sucks now :P

What’d he do?

CPC, epidemic, BiP and then plague (with MoC trait). took him from ~40k down to like 6k HP. So awesome.

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

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LOL. i know, im laughing so hard. ANET FAILED so hard, and they think its good. LOL. I am so laughing my kitten off right now. LOL. hahahhaah. can kill yourself without plague, just with the condis you put on yourself.

hHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Posted by: Ithir Darkleaf.7923

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LOL. i know, im laughing so hard. ANET FAILED so hard, and they think its good. LOL. I am so laughing my kitten off right now. LOL. hahahhaah. can kill yourself without plague, just with the condis you put on yourself.

hHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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What’d he do?

Using Blood Is Power + Plague on a totally average condi build brought himself to 6k HP. With a bit of effort you should be able to kill yourself.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

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#Believe in Robert Gee

huh?

obey me

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

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What’d he do?

Using Blood Is Power + Plague on a totally average condi build brought himself to 6k HP. With a bit of effort you should be able to kill yourself.

I knew it was gonna be possible…

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Posted by: Tim.6450

Tim.6450

LOL OMG THE GUY ON THE TWITCH STREAM RIGHT NOW LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair he did blood is power also, but the skill basicly sucks now :P

What’d he do?

CPC, epidemic, BiP and then plague (with MoC trait). took him from ~40k down to like 6k HP. So awesome.

He should have used cc first for extra damage.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

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The OP was right. Plague is devastating…to ourselves

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Posted by: Shiki.7148

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LOL OMG THE GUY ON THE TWITCH STREAM RIGHT NOW LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair he did blood is power also, but the skill basicly sucks now :P

What’d he do?

CPC, epidemic, BiP and then plague (with MoC trait). took him from ~40k down to like 6k HP. So awesome.

He should have used cc first for extra damage.

Haha, yeah. Funny thing is he wasn’t even full glasscannon-condi. I mean we have precision→ condidamage too now. haha.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

With the poison/bleed duration runes, plus food in PvE I think it should be easy to kill yourself.

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Posted by: Ithir Darkleaf.7923

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The patheticness of this situation is just incredible. We are discussing the better way to kill ourselves when the next patch hits live….. That’s the most interesting topic we have right now #BelieveInRobert

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

With the poison/bleed duration runes, plus food in PvE I think it should be easy to kill yourself.

Yea, Drarnor already calculated that. I’m curious if we can do the same in PvP though. Was thinking about some signets maybe, for more might? Like replacing CC with Vampirism and maybe one more.

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Posted by: Tissitra.4153

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Finally necromancers can fully partake in the universal quest to bring every necromancer back to their natural state: the downed state.

But seriously how can the devs possibly not realize how hilariously broken this is? Anyone with a basic knowledge of the mechanics or the will to JUST TEST THE TRAIT ONCE will tell you how silly this is.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

With the poison/bleed duration runes, plus food in PvE I think it should be easy to kill yourself.

Yea, Drarnor already calculated that. I’m curious if we can do the same in PvP though. Was thinking about some signets maybe, for more might? Like replacing CC with Vampirism and maybe one more.

Group of 3 Necros casting Blood is Power is 8 seconds of 24 Might to each, plus a nice long bleed to kick things off. Should be doable with Afflicted runes and duration sigils.

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

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they ended that stream i believe because it showed how ridiculous it was. I am really thinking necro is done. It is simply done in pvp.

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Posted by: Shiki.7148

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Finally necromancers can fully partake in the universal quest to bring every necromancer back to their natural state: the downed state.

But seriously how can the devs possibly not realize how hilariously broken this is? Anyone with a basic knowledge of the mechanics or the will to JUST TEST THE TRAIT ONCE will tell you how silly this is.

Thats the worst part of it all. They took ages to supposedly “finalize and test and balance” the changes, and it ends up as something that a random guy from the forums could have done better in every aspect in 24 hours (conceptwise, not implementation, obv.). It is sad, really.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

With the poison/bleed duration runes, plus food in PvE I think it should be easy to kill yourself.

Yea, Drarnor already calculated that. I’m curious if we can do the same in PvP though. Was thinking about some signets maybe, for more might? Like replacing CC with Vampirism and maybe one more.

Group of 3 Necros casting Blood is Power is 8 seconds of 24 Might to each, plus a nice long bleed to kick things off. Should be doable with Afflicted runes and duration sigils.

Wouldn’t Krait runes be more optimal for this meta? And maybe weaponswap with Sigil of Battle before?

Finally necromancers can fully partake in the universal quest to bring every necromancer back to their natural state: the downed state.

But seriously how can the devs possibly not realize how hilariously broken this is? Anyone with a basic knowledge of the mechanics or the will to JUST TEST THE TRAIT ONCE will tell you how silly this is.

Thats the worst part of it all. They took ages to supposedly “finalize and test and balance” the changes, and it ends up as something that a random guy from the forums could have done better in every aspect in 24 hours (conceptwise, not implementation, obv.). It is sad, really.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

With the poison/bleed duration runes, plus food in PvE I think it should be easy to kill yourself.

Yea, Drarnor already calculated that. I’m curious if we can do the same in PvP though. Was thinking about some signets maybe, for more might? Like replacing CC with Vampirism and maybe one more.

Group of 3 Necros casting Blood is Power is 8 seconds of 24 Might to each, plus a nice long bleed to kick things off. Should be doable with Afflicted runes and duration sigils.

Wouldn’t Krait runes be more optimal for this meta? And maybe weaponswap with Sigil of Battle before?

Krait Runes would be better in PvP, yes. In PvE where you have consumables, Afflicted are better.

Actually, I could probably come up with something that kills you faster still by netting 100% condition duration. 40% food, 10% Toxic crystal, 10% Trapper rune 2 piece, 10% Sigil of Malice, 5% Nightmare 2 piece, 5% Mad King 2 piece, and 10% from one Giver’s weapon.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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I’m asking because massive genocide would be easier to organize in PvP.

I’m not the math guy, if you could confirm the possibility, I’d be very grateful and I’ll shout “Drarnor made it possible!” on the map chat when dying.

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Posted by: Linnael.1069

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If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

With the poison/bleed duration runes, plus food in PvE I think it should be easy to kill yourself.

Yea, Drarnor already calculated that. I’m curious if we can do the same in PvP though. Was thinking about some signets maybe, for more might? Like replacing CC with Vampirism and maybe one more.

Group of 3 Necros casting Blood is Power is 8 seconds of 24 Might to each, plus a nice long bleed to kick things off. Should be doable with Afflicted runes and duration sigils.

Wouldn’t Krait runes be more optimal for this meta? And maybe weaponswap with Sigil of Battle before?

Krait Runes would be better in PvP, yes. In PvE where you have consumables, Afflicted are better.

Actually, I could probably come up with something that kills you faster still by netting 100% condition duration. 40% food, 10% Toxic crystal, 10% Trapper rune 2 piece, 10% Sigil of Malice, 5% Nightmare 2 piece, 5% Mad King 2 piece, and 10% from one Giver’s weapon.

If you recalculate don’t forget to factor in the 8 seconds of +10% self damage from CC

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Posted by: Shiki.7148

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If he used other runes than Nightmare, he’d maybe even kill himself.

With the poison/bleed duration runes, plus food in PvE I think it should be easy to kill yourself.

Yea, Drarnor already calculated that. I’m curious if we can do the same in PvP though. Was thinking about some signets maybe, for more might? Like replacing CC with Vampirism and maybe one more.

Group of 3 Necros casting Blood is Power is 8 seconds of 24 Might to each, plus a nice long bleed to kick things off. Should be doable with Afflicted runes and duration sigils.

Wouldn’t Krait runes be more optimal for this meta? And maybe weaponswap with Sigil of Battle before?

Finally necromancers can fully partake in the universal quest to bring every necromancer back to their natural state: the downed state.

But seriously how can the devs possibly not realize how hilariously broken this is? Anyone with a basic knowledge of the mechanics or the will to JUST TEST THE TRAIT ONCE will tell you how silly this is.

Thats the worst part of it all. They took ages to supposedly “finalize and test and balance” the changes, and it ends up as something that a random guy from the forums could have done better in every aspect in 24 hours (conceptwise, not implementation, obv.). It is sad, really.

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No but seriously, it is sad how hard Anet failed. Like, not even RIOT messes up that bad with their gameplay reworks … And that is saying something.

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Posted by: Fhenrir.5297

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

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Posted by: Neandramathal.9536

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Not sure if I should be happy it’s not as silly.. or sad that there won’t be numerous videos of mass suicide squads.. hmm.

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

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Not sure if I should be happy it’s not as silly.. or sad that there won’t be numerous videos of mass suicide squads.. hmm.

Well, now you don’t have to lose self dps because of the vitality boost of Plague!

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

Now that’s a sad panda.

They could at least give us a day of fun with that!

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

Most likely? We’ve been kittening about this for a week. They’re just now considering making changes? Patch is tomorrow xD

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Posted by: Fhenrir.5297

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

Now that’s a sad panda.

They could at least give us a day of fun with that!

Well, he did not say that change would be live tomorrow :’)

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

Most likely? We’ve been kittening about this for a week. They’re just now considering making changes? Patch is tomorrow xD

That is the wrong change anyways. They should’ve made Plague a well. Then it would at least be a buff.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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I would like to suggest very motivational words for the Necromancer I saw sometimes on various sites about fitness etc., I think it will inspire us and fits perfectly:

No pain, no gain

Or Necro version:

Pain, no gain

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

Already our most consistent build being nerfed. Thanks a lot, ArenaNet, LLC. and NC Interactive, LLC.

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Posted by: Shiki.7148

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

You know the worst part? it took like FIVE SECONDS for the community to figure out that their skill was bullkitten. At this point I’m seriously in doubt if Anet has ever heard of the word “playtesting” or “QA”. Or heck “considering community feedback”. I’m pretty sure those are all new and wonderous things to them that they might or might not understand in 5 years time. /rant.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

Meh so a totally not op elite still gets nerfed unless you take a terrible trait which competes with two of our only good condi traits? Regardless, nothing can be worse than making cc have a higher cd and give you 10 stacks of vuln. What a joke that is

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

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dude, did you see the warrior, mesmer, and engie showcases, they looked amazing. then they showed necro, and it was… well absolutely horrible. POower builds compared to what the other classes could do, were so sad for a necro, and then they showed condi and it was worse. Even the tester was like, wow, i see why necro players are mad. LOL

Anet, why don’t you pay attention?

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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Cos anet hate necro. Been saying it for ages. They have something against the class! The proof is everywhere. This patch nerfing our only good heal into the dust is just a singke example. And if condis are good i suspect necro will be the last to benefit. Warrior and ele and engi specs can produce much more deadly condi specs

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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I like how people being amazing by these showcases, like it wasn’t obvious before.

www.twitch.tv/jebrounity doing pvp against power necro, lel

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Posted by: dood.7526

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Can we just drop the idea that a necro gains super powers after self inflicting a condtion? And why does master of corruption self inflict MORE conditions? Shouldn’t it just remove the self-condition aspect altogether?

How bout a trait called “master of deathshroud” : makes class viable for 20 seconds

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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Can we just drop the idea that a necro gains super powers after self inflicting a condtion? And why does master of corruption self inflict MORE conditions? Shouldn’t it just remove the self-condition aspect altogether?

How bout a trait called “master of deathshroud” : makes class viable for 20 seconds

I know lol. Our transfers are already taxed to the max dealing with all the condis other classes fart out into us. We really dont need to put our own condis on us.

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Posted by: gavyne.6847

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Just FYI Guys Karl said on the stream that they are most likely changing the bleed on plague to a 1 stack 10 second bleed on activation with no re activation I guess the stream paid off.

Well I don’t know who’s testing these changes for them on behalf of necros, but anybody who plays a necro on a regular basis would’ve known the outcome of some of these changes. No live stream or public shame was needed. It really shows you whoever’s testing these changes for necros need to get fired. I know they have internal testers that give devs feedback on beta servers. But really, kitten poor job testing the class changes so far.

I guess this lil bit of news is good news, but it shouldn’t take a day before a major balancing patch before they make these tweaks. This just increase further chance of mess ups. Plague didn’t need a ticking condition, Consume Conditions didn’t need to hurt the user. Neither of these skills were overpowered, heck no other classes complained about these skills either.

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Posted by: Odeezee.7362

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i told you guys that we were kittened! what’s said is that even the fix Karl came up with sucks, so instead of scrapping that garbage trait (as they should), they are keeping the garbage, just making it not smell as bad, it’s still kittening garbage, seriously kitten the Anet balance people and how kittening bias they are against Necros. this kitten makes me want to not even play this kittening game, we shouldn’t have to be fighting the kittening devs for parity FFS!!!!

Anet get your kitten together and do right by Necros and stop with your niche, hey this maybe a cool concept garbage and give us EFFECTIVE traits and skills already!!!!!

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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Come on, folks. Plague cannot be an easy win for opponents or it would never get past the testers.

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Posted by: Koalachan.3451

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Necro, losing 1v0 since June 23, 2015!