Guild Wars 2

Hey guys,
so with the buffs to dagger, warhorn and axe I sort of-ish made a new powermancer video. It’s full glass with a ton of LF regen and also uses the new assassin’s amulet so a TON of damage.

50% up time on swiftness, 32k HP (DS), and awesome bursts!
Unfortunately no lich though. (R.I.P.)

Well, the video goes into a lot more detail and also has some really interesting combo’s between DS – dagger/focus – axe/warhorn.

Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRN0zyQcn5k

Put a kitten ton of time into this so I hope y’all like it.
(If you see any spelling errors please let me know, i probably missed some :P)

-Hollts

Nicely done Holl,

thanks for doing this!

Explaining combos to poeple – great job. i think many will like it and get big help from it.

Other parts…. before i say any bad stuff, id have to ask what the point of it is?

Flumek.9043:

Explaining combos to poeple – great job. i think many will like it and get big help from it.

Other parts…. before i say any bad stuff, id have to ask what the point of it is?

First of all thank
And secondly, it was more of an update on my pre-patch power necro, and with the buffs to warhorn/axe I had to make a new vid. But to make things clearer: I have a YouTube channel and I like power necro so why not .

Ropechef.6192:

Nicely done Holl,

thanks for doing this!

Np, glad I could help

Interesting build, but definitely has quite a few weaknesses, which weren’t shown in your video because you were fighting atrocious players/dummies.

1. I too played around with no staff, but found that the increased range and defensive abilities are necessary when playing against better players.

2. Your build has no condition transfer.

3. Because you’re not running 2 wells with ground targeting, and no staff, your aoe on point is much lower, and to actually do your damage, you’ll need to be on or very close to the point most of the time. Against better players, this will make you a very easy target. The build is therefore much better suited for 1v1s, or off-point fighting, however I think this is the wrong way to play power necro. It is better played as a quick team fight turn around, with its huge aoe on point damage and direct burst.

4. Lich can still turn a fight around. Golem is of course better for 1v1s, as I feel your build is made for, though I think this is the wrong decision. In a larger team fight, your golem will die instantly.

I doubt this build expresses my point perfectly, so just whisper me ig if you want to talk about it.

I think it could be very usefull if everyone who post a build tell in the thread for what the build is thought.

This is one of the main the post patch meta power builds.
good stuff.

I use 4/4/0/0/6 with terror or spectral attunement, pack runes and soldier/zerk for a slightly different setup depending on the opposition.

As I posted in youtube you will mostly likely be wrecked by a good Condi Build, its basicly a race to finish the enemy and all the Pressure lies on you.

I’m sorry, I didn’t explain myself. I was refering to www, pve, dungeon, pvp, and so on.

Gl hf

Bloodyhell.8760:

I’m sorry, I didn’t explain myself. I was refering to www, pve, dungeon, pvp, and so on.

Gl hf

No problem man, I use it in PvP (all types) and somewhat in WvW (But than i take staff and spectral walk).

Ravezaar.4951:

As I posted in youtube you will mostly likely be wrecked by a good Condi Build, its basicly a race to finish the enemy and all the Pressure lies on you.

As I replied:
Well it depends on how you look at it. The defense against power is toughness, and for conditions it’s health. Every Necro is somewhat prepared for conditions because of at least 14k extra health due to DS. Wiping those conditions would be better of coarse but than you would lose everything dagger/x or axe/x has to offer. Feel free to take staff instead, but I just don’t think 3 condi transfer every 40 seconds (I think not totally sure) is game changing.

Ovid.7135:

Interesting build, but definitely has quite a few weaknesses, which weren’t shown in your video because you were fighting atrocious players/dummies.

1. I too played around with no staff, but found that the increased range and defensive abilities are necessary when playing against better players.

2. Your build has no condition transfer.

3. Because you’re not running 2 wells with ground targeting, and no staff, your aoe on point is much lower, and to actually do your damage, you’ll need to be on or very close to the point most of the time. Against better players, this will make you a very easy target. The build is therefore much better suited for 1v1s, or off-point fighting, however I think this is the wrong way to play power necro. It is better played as a quick team fight turn around, with its huge aoe on point damage and direct burst.

4. Lich can still turn a fight around. Golem is of course better for 1v1s, as I feel your build is made for, though I think this is the wrong decision. In a larger team fight, your golem will die instantly.

I doubt this build expresses my point perfectly, so just whisper me ig if you want to talk about it.

Well i sure like a good 1v1
1. I get where you are coming from, but even when i had staff equipped pre-patch I didn’t find that it was that mandatory, but that is just personal preference. Plus, swiftness/daze/cripple/retal/and an actually somewhat-ish good ranged AA isn’t bad too.

2. Sure It’s handy but not absolutely needed.

3. mhh, haven’t thought about that, but i do think power necro has a lot more to offer than just for team fights and lich. (spectral grasp is personal preference, you can of coarse go with a second well)

4. In the state that it is in now, I feel that golem (knockdown/cripple/1k AA) has more to offer than 20 sec lich.

I guess eventually it comes down to personal preference, and what you feel is more useful.

Thanks for all the input so far

I tried this build. It’s “OK”, good for surprise burst but any half decent thief of ranger will just rip you a new one. It does have a LOT of weakness’s though.

Wish people would indicate what the build is for, wvw, pve, spvp.

Well the video is all in spvp so I’m guessing it’s an spvp build but I could just be jumping to the logical conclusion which is completely unacceptable on the interwebs

JoxerNL.3752:

Wish people would indicate what the build is for, wvw, pve, spvp.

I said that man, in one of the replies; its for PvP.

But interesting how this is considered weak to conditions only because I don’t have a 3 condi transfer every 25 seconds and 1200 range. Is it that big of a loss? I would think 2 sec daze/swift/cripple/and some more vuln stacking/and a burst skill would make up for it…

I’ve gone back and forth on that issue and other issues brought up by Ovid earlier in the thread. Staff shines more on certain maps, like temple of the silent storm where it is clutch for interrupting channels, where as axe/focus may be better on khylo where the areas to fight are tighter and that range isn’t as important. Also depends on what specs you’re fighting, which is hard to determine beforehand.

Same thing with Lich – which by the way is still very much alive. I’m fairly certain I actually hit harder now than before 9/9 with lich form. But in certain maps and playstyles golem may suit you better.

Holl.3109:

But interesting how this is considered weak to conditions only because I don’t have a 3 condi transfer every 25 seconds and 1200 range. Is it that big of a loss? I would think 2 sec daze/swift/cripple/and some more vuln stacking/and a burst skill would make up for it…

On a class with more cc immunity it would, but we don’t have that as a necro, so for necro transfers = both defensive and offensive pressure where your method is purely offense but it puts you in a horrible position against some classes.

have you considered dagger over focus? Spinal shivers is great when it hits, but the cast time is horrid. I love dagger offhand in pvp; condi transfer, AoE weakness, 3 target blind. Great defensive weaponset to help cover the relative squishiness of using bersekers. I usually go d/w or d/d + staff, looking forward to watching this video when I get home to see how dagger + axe works

I would like to point out Mark of Blood is better (for me) than Putrid Mark for the regen. There are other skills on staff that may seem lame but are not so much if you can live with the weapon swap CD, which is the real problem – being stuck on staff for too long.

Roe.3679:

I’ve gone back and forth on that issue and other issues brought up by Ovid earlier in the thread. Staff shines more on certain maps, like temple of the silent storm where it is clutch for interrupting channels, where as axe/focus may be better on khylo where the areas to fight are tighter and that range isn’t as important. Also depends on what specs you’re fighting, which is hard to determine beforehand.

Same thing with Lich – which by the way is still very much alive. I’m fairly certain I actually hit harder now than before 9/9 with lich form. But in certain maps and playstyles golem may suit you better.

Really? I seem to hitting like a wet noodle, but maybe I’m doing someting wrong.
And thx for the explanation on the staff and maps, didn’t think of it like that.

Cam Ron.4170:

have you considered dagger over focus? Spinal shivers is great when it hits, but the cast time is horrid. I love dagger offhand in pvp; condi transfer, AoE weakness, 3 target blind. Great defensive weaponset to help cover the relative squishiness of using bersekers. I usually go d/w or d/d + staff, looking forward to watching this video when I get home to see how dagger + axe works

I used to run dagger OH, but since I discovered focus I’ve not used much else. In WvW I do use dagger offhand however.

Dagger OH is kind of useless save for cond xfer your better running focus or warhorn at this point.

kyubi.3620:

Dagger OH is kind of useless save for cond xfer your better running focus or warhorn at this point.

Yup, the weakness is nice too however… But still focus or WH seems better :/

wat iz gide necro 111 pew best

quite a strong build against melee but very weak against range

Stand The Wall.6987:

wat iz gide necro 111 pew best

Waz do u means?

EremiteAngel.9765:

quite a strong build against melee but very weak against range

True, but you always got your homing life blast missiles

It is a nice builds for vets, but against other vets who you’ve stomp already in a match they don’t fall for this build twice. After glass canoning a hammer warrior they adjusted their berserker/endure/stability use better against what weapon I had active at the time. It made them a lot harder to deal with. Against power/crit longbow pew pew rangers with control pets it all came down to LoS..if I had it, I did well..if it was open ground they mulched me quick. With no blocks, reveal, reflection or stability I shouldn’t cry..they were always going to have the upper hand…then I did cry, why don’t I have blocks, reflects and reveals like most others?..then I realised, some how after this last patch I have more survival skills..it just doesn’t feel like I did in a downed position about to be stomped. So I looked on line, and sure enough crouching on the ground in a emergency is in fact a survival technique..that’s when I realised a-net nailed necromancer survival skills.

sorry, small rant about what necro was never given..but all in all I had fun with this build.

nice video, found the text very tedious to trawl through though, do you not have a microphone to talk through the build?

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

It is a nice builds for vets, but against other vets who you’ve stomp already in a match they don’t fall for this build twice. After glass canoning a hammer warrior they adjusted their berserker/endure/stability use better against what weapon I had active at the time. It made them a lot harder to deal with. Against power/crit longbow pew pew rangers with control pets it all came down to LoS..if I had it, I did well..if it was open ground they mulched me quick. With no blocks, reveal, reflection or stability I shouldn’t cry..they were always going to have the upper hand…then I did cry, why don’t I have blocks, reflects and reveals like most others?..then I realised, some how after this last patch I have more survival skills..it just doesn’t feel like I did in a downed position about to be stomped. So I looked on line, and sure enough crouching on the ground in a emergency is in fact a survival technique..that’s when I realised a-net nailed necromancer survival skills.

sorry, small rant about what necro was never given..but all in all I had fun with this build.

Anet gotta step up their necro game! and yes i dropped this build and now use celestial might stacking necro which works pretty well actually! Should have a video of that out soon

rapthorne.7345:

nice video, found the text very tedious to trawl through though, do you not have a microphone to talk through the build?

Sorry, my microphone on my PC is nearly unusable, and i don’t want to spend $$$. For me writing it out is faster/easier, but for the viewers probably not. I will probably look into it in the future :/

If your interested in getting into serious tpvp you should definitely get a new mic. Even just a cheapo mic would work.

Holl-

Mind linking just a gw2build to the celestial might build you are running now? Ive been a fan of your youtubes for a while, and would like to see what traits/gear you have switched to.

Ive been running your powermancer glass cannon build with great success in WvW roaming and Spvp. Though admittedly I’ve struggled against Rangers and Ele’s. Haven’t been able to pull my weight in the Tpvp games due to the issues that others have mentioned. But its still a relatively fun build.

Thanks

I use might stacking on Rampager but maybe Celestial is better; was never sure what to do with the limp Celestial set except to stuff cheap Undead runes on it temporarily.

Furious Vorkon.9206:

Holl-

Mind linking just a gw2build to the celestial might build you are running now? Ive been a fan of your youtubes for a while, and would like to see what traits/gear you have switched to.

Ive been running your powermancer glass cannon build with great success in WvW roaming and Spvp. Though admittedly I’ve struggled against Rangers and Ele’s. Haven’t been able to pull my weight in the Tpvp games due to the issues that others have mentioned. But its still a relatively fun build.

Thanks

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBIhZakjmqbbtx2G2bTgMUQ9kRHAFwBQdU0EvKA-TJRGwAAeEAJODAg2fYZZAA
This is it. Ill make a vid of it in about 2 weeks i think.

NeXeD.3042:

If your interested in getting into serious tpvp you should definitely get a new mic. Even just a cheapo mic would work.

Yup, currently in a casual group where i just listen to the other guys calling the shots on TS :P

Anchoku.8142:

I use might stacking on Rampager but maybe Celestial is better; was never sure what to do with the limp Celestial set except to stuff cheap Undead runes on it temporarily.

Rampagers isn’t bad either but i like that celestial gives everything. Its’ all very useful except healing power :/

This is a really old build… re-posting for kitten kitten “forum fame” is a kitten move.

Kahrgan.7401:

This is a really old build… re-posting for kitten kitten “forum fame” is a kitten move.

It isn’t old, just common. And no, not doing it for forum fame, doing it to help people out, and if that gets me forum fame, well than sure
I got 203 youtube subs who wanna know what i’m running and are enjoying my vids, which i enjoy making. And it’s a guide man, It isn’t hurting you is it, so stop complaining.

(ps. I couldn’t really care less what happens on the forums)
(pss. #HatersGonnaHate)

Holl, if you want to have advise on a cheap but rather good mic, hit me up – I got some suggestions, and it will surely improve the videos a ton as people like to listen more than to read

<— deaf guy,

Listening is OP,

:)

Ropechef.6192:

<— deaf guy,

Listening is OP,

:)

Alright, then both :P

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Holl, if you want to have advise on a cheap but rather good mic, hit me up – I got some suggestions, and it will surely improve the videos a ton as people like to listen more than to read

I’ll probably take you up on that offer, I’ll contact you ingame
Sorry rope chef

Is all good guys i have a really, really loud head set,

most of the time though i will say that when you are talking showing trait points, and or skill highlights. is what helps at least ME.

I may not be able to hear you or understand what it is you are saying but if you show me i can more or less figure it out.

:)