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So I’ve been playing power necro for a while and consistently I have a ridiculously hard time with stun warriors. Ones that run main hand mace, off hand shield, hammer and so forth.
It’s not like I don’t know what they are doing, it’s just that I can’t seem to be able to sustain damage enough to bring them half health before I get locked down again or able to get distance. Their near constant stability, high toughness, great healing, condition immunity, and blocking makes them feel impossible to kill. Often I just say kitten it and go lich form to try and kill them quickly. Am I missing some sort of secret to killing this guys or is it just a fact they super hard counter power necro and you don’t fight them?
If it matters this is in regards to spvp not wvw.
I think you are trying to be too much of a power Necro. Add a little condi.
There is no way to play a war as a Necro. Embrace the corruption.
Well of Darkness can screw up the hammer cc train well. Its on a horrible long CD though. Other than that you can just try to kite them if you are using an axe and try to dodge the key skills. At least one Stunbreaker is a must, 4 second mace stun is scary.
Retaliation, Poison, Blind, Wells and Fear for interrupts. Vs a good Warrior the Fight always takes some time, but most times i win. Just make sure you interrupt the important spells and stand on your wells. I’m using well of blood as well. Vampiric Rituals really helps. Im using 30/10/0/30/0 Good Luck.
Lich = dead warrior.
I find wells do good agianst stun wars. Blind converting boons to conditions ext.
If he starts using his combo on you, immediately DS + #3. If it’s on cooldown or he has stability, you might want to take Foot in the grave for reliable stability.
I run MM but when I see a warrior with a hammer (I hate them so much), I have to pretty much give up using my second weapon set and try to just kite them with staff and death shroud abilities.
The chill from staff slows them down quite a bit so if you can get some distance you can keep damaging them while staying from enough away from them that they can’t hit you with their melee abilities and can’t leap at you.
What Utility skills are you running when fighting them, though I normally duel in WvW I have fought a good number of Stun warriors.
full glass with 2x will lose unless the wariors keyboard breaks and he cant walk out. in other words you lose to anyone not kittened. then again you shouldnt be wining 1v1 s as a aoe team burst spec..
you can try leetos d/d builds. it can work if you are good. like you still lose to a equal good warior, but at least you got a chance against the worse ones. or maybe like I do, get the spectral pull and try going for a fast decap then surving untill help arrives.
To sum it up, warior is still warior.
First, list your build if you want an advice instead of QQ.
Then, I can tell that 20/20/0/0/30 still works pretty decently with my tpvp build and running A/D+D/Wh, yet to meet a hambow who would impress me.
After you learn the “stunoob rotation” you can laugh at 90% of them and whoop their kitten .
Well of Power, Flesh Wurm, Spectral Armor, Warhorn. These are keys to open every warrior’s kitten.
Poison helps a lot also
They are difficult for me on my necro mainly due to the lack of any increased endurance regain. The best you can do in that situation is tank their hits with death shroud, which means having good death shroud sustain and life force generation.
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That’s the direct damage build I use on my necro. Against warriors, I’ll be ready to strip their stability. Right before I do, I’ll use focus 4 to stack up some nice vulnerability, remove the boons with focus 5, and as soon as it’s down I’ll minion charge, well of suffering, spectral pull, walk through them, enter death shroud, and fear them so they walk inside the well AoE, then continue to blast away with life blast. Before then, it’s just a matter of doing your best to eat their damage and try to get their health down enough to be finished with that combo while they faceroll thinking they’ve already won.
The build can do that pretty well, even in 1vX due to high up-time on banshee’s wail, 2x spectral armour, axe#2 always accessible, and spectral pull for 20% life force on a 30s cd that also chills. Well of suffering is an obvious burst attempt, which is why it needs to be used with crowd control abilities, or dropped under a team fight. It has a solid spot on the bar for that burst capability, and it’s extremely useful to handle stealthed thieves, and all forms of AI. Minions, phantasms, spirits will all happily sit in the AoE while you life transfer them at the same time, which pretty much destroys those AI builds before you even engage the player.
I usually don’t bother with them(let a teammate better suited for them counter) unless I’ve got Lich up. I hardly ever do that though, as I’d rather save Lich for teamfights or 1vX.
The only times you’ll be able to down a warrior w/o Lich will be if they’re incredibly bad at the class. Otherwise, you’re better off sticking to what Power is best at: nuking in team fights/1v1ing non-Warriors.
I usually don’t bother with them(let a teammate better suited for them counter) unless I’ve got Lich up. I hardly ever do that though, as I’d rather save Lich for teamfights or 1vX.
The only times you’ll be able to down a warrior w/o Lich will be if they’re incredibly bad at the class. Otherwise, you’re better off sticking to what Power is best at: nuking in team fights/1v1ing non-Warriors.
This … ppl that ssays otherwise played wvw or hasnt met any high ranked warrior. Good war will eat power necro anyday .. and you cant even run from him. Beside there are wors war builds there for power necros.
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Warrior…..
Lets just say, I hope they’re not on their game.
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Stun warriors only cause me problems when its 2v1. If I can get them 1v1 on the rabid dhuum terrormancer I will kill them eventually.
Lich = dead warrior.
^This 1000 times over. Or if you are feeling like a real jerk
1. Well of suffering
2. Lich Form
3. AA with lich form
4. ?
5. Profit.
I don’t play a warrior, but if I did I would never stand in a well. Also if I played a warrior as soon as I saw you pop lich I would just run away for the duration of lich come back kill you and teabag you. Shouldn’t ever rely on an elite to win a 1v1.
Lich = dead warrior.
^This 1000 times over. Or if you are feeling like a real jerk
1. Well of suffering
2. Lich Form
3. AA with lich form
4. ?
5. Profit.
Yep as long as you are straight zerker and have lich form off cool down I see no way to loose to a stun warrior. Its just battle math you have more hp and do more damage every time you hit him, as long as you have stability he can’t beat you.
And if your fighting a hammer warrior then he can’t effectively run away from you because chances are he has Hammer/Longbow or Hammer/Mace+? and so gets none of the speed that GS/S+WH gets.
Hit your swiftness and a chill or cripple and kill the coward as he runs for his miserable life.
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I don’t play a warrior, but if I did I would never stand in a well. Also if I played a warrior as soon as I saw you pop lich I would just run away for the duration of lich come back kill you and teabag you. Shouldn’t ever rely on an elite to win a 1v1.
The fact that it’s a conquest game mode kind of makes them either have to stand in wells… Or lose the point… And you’d be surprised how many dumb warriors there are.
Or corrupt his stability and fear the kitten out of him.
Good Power Necro can acutally duel good hambow and win without Lich or wellbombing. It’s a matter of positioning, wise usage of your cooldowns, surviving Zerker stance.
Now, when Lyssa got nerfed it’s even easier.
Hambow isn’t really creative set, your opponent won’t surprise you. Even “best” ones tend to just channel all hammer skills from left to right and use combustive right after.
On the other side, you can surprise and outplay him.
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