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Posted by: kwstyle.9148

kwstyle.9148

I’m Ryusai ingame but also known as VGRyusai,

I recently got back in the PvP game mode of GW2 since I have stopped playing for a while. I enjoyed the changes in PvP.

Since I saw a lot of montage of PvP gameplay I decided to create a complete video with my point of view. Since in most montage they only show you the best fights and parts but never really show you a complete match and never explains what they do.

PS: Sorry for my bad English but all that matter is that I had a lot of fun making the commentary video ^^

You can see what I do and what I was thinking in my PvP commentary video:

http://youtu.be/7AS5KOfDbXw

I played GW2 since release and did not like the PvP mode but after the recent changes I’m starting to like it.

If you have any suggestions or questions feel free to ask. Any feedback would be great in improving my gameplay in PvP.

Since I’m comfortable with D/D and staff i prefer playing it with those weapons set.

The main reason that I enjoy PvP is because I ignore the wanna be pro’s that spam stupid things and yell at everyone at his own team. (and even in a practice match………… If they be like that in practice match like saying f***ing noobs F**got etc.)

Once I ignored those kind of players that are actually destroying the PvP community I enjoyed my matchup in ranked and unranked PvP matches.

PS: If you are guilty of acting like this and you are annoyed that you lose then I would say pls find a team and stop bashing new players that want to try PvP instead of PvE.

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

I agree with a lot of your sentiment in your post.

I would really recommend playing dagger/warhorn instead of d/d. Warhorn offers a surprising amount of damage and the interrupt is awesome.

Also since it seems you’re new to pvp, I would recommend that you don’t push a bunkered far. It’s fine to push far as a power necro if you have cooldowns, life force, and you are comfortable against your enemy, but otherwise it’s best to leave it go. Especially if they have a bunker on it. Just leave them there and rotate to destroy all their teammates with those huge life blasts. But for allegedly being new to pvp you didn’t do bad at all.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Just a couple things I can suggest to improve your play.

  • Lich Form 5 is amazing! It hits about as hard as the auto attack, but also removes all boons from enemies and all conditions from allies in the area. It’s very worth remembering to use that skill. I saw a few times where it would have been good to use in your video.
  • Dagger 2 is situational, but I saw a few times it would have been worth using. If someone is kiting you in daggers, use that. It’s not great damage, but it’s more than you were getting otherwise. It also has a very nice self-heal attached, which can be handy when you’re trying to last as long as you can. Again, I saw a few times in your video where it would have been a great idea to use it.
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Posted by: Flumek.9043

Flumek.9043

  • you should not have a “close afk” person – basicaly what their turret trash engie was doing. staying home and losing 4v5 is 2012 tactics
  • a necro should not be the point defender, especialy power nec. with a support bunker in the other teamfight a ele/engie or warri is a good 1v1 holder. while tankier than lets say a thief, necros are way better at attacking and in process decaping a node rather than defending it
  • i know it wasnt you but DONT. GO. FOR. SVANIR. AT. START……..EVER…. im not joking but you shouldve called the engie an idiot for that and tell him to never do it again. I cant sugar coat it – its a huge beginner mistake, meganoob move
  • PRE-PLACE YOUR MARKS (at least 2 and 3, save 4 & 5, unless you feel youre safe for a good 20-30s…they last 30s on ground btw). it allerts you when someone is coming, it stall them, makes them waste a dodge… countless uses
  • dont rush far after you wipe mid. as you saw, they will respawn
  • wasting both dodges before fight – ehmm just dont do it ds2+3 is a good way to secure the gap closer on point
  • even when you do a small wipe on close , you should again (mostly) not go for svanir – IF midfight is not safe.
  • consider small build changes if you wanna go higher, the blind well is not worth it, long CD and not stunbreak… wurm migitates a lot more dmg or a dmging well or spectral always fits on power necro
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Posted by: kwstyle.9148

kwstyle.9148

@ Roe

I tried Warhorn but for some reason it didn’t fit my playstyle yet. Mayb I need to play is more and get comfortable with it. One of the reason is because most of the time when quing by myself I find a lot of situations where the enemy get ressed because I don’t have stability and no blinds to savely stomp them than with dagger 4 instead of 4 warhorn.

I don’t know if it works can you interrupt the downed enemy interupt with warhorn? (I tried it but I think I can but my warhorn number 4 timing is horrible atm :P). And the number 4 dagger with blinds is not for single target so I don’t get knocked back because his teammate got blinded too.

But I agree the interrupts is awesome but for now it does not fit my playstyle yet but I will definitely play it more thank you for the suggestion.

And after seeing myself in a match I have learned a lot for the things what I should do or should not have done

@Dranor Kunomar

Thank you for the great feedback I really appreciate it. Yes indeed after seeing myself play I can really see the mistakes I make. For some reason when I try to use my lich form skills they don’t want to activate most of the time. Is it just me? If you see in the video you can see that I pushed the buttons a lot of times and they did’t activate during that match I had that in a lot of matches lately. (I’m a WvW roamer so never really used lich form :P)

@ Flumek

Thank you for the feedback most of the points you pointed out I agree. After seeing myself playing I saw a lot of things that I could do better

For the necro decapping? You mean roaming around and decap? I don’t really have the speed for that and no special skill to close gaps faster.

Most of the matches that I q they force me to stay close the team chat is most of the time silent and based on the situation I decide or even they decide that I stay close and assist mid. So in some situations I rather do the best I can and fill in the empty spot than arguing with other players what they can do best. But if I’m correct the match system has been improved a lot. So as I rank up I think I will get more players that will fullfill the close point so that I can do what is good for this build. But I have a lot of matches to go before getting my rank 80

As for the engi that went for svanir I rather tell him nicely instead of calling him idiot. We all need to learn the game at some points and calling a player an idiot may not be a huge impact for you but some players will stop playing gw2 because of that. So in those cases I rather whisper and explain nicely than going mad and tell him that he is an idiot. But thanks for the advice I really appreciate it.

as for pre placing my marks I I agree with the 2 skill. 3 and 5 will save me a lot of time to fully cap a point and fear and chill the enemy while capping. (But this really depends on the situation). I know they will waste their dodges but sometimes while playing you don’t think before you act :P. But all depends on the situation and the enemy you face.

Yeah after seeing myself play I do saw that I should not have rushed there.

As for that dodging I totally agree After seeing myself doing that I was like (WHAT ARE YOU DOING XD). My DS 3 was not up in that scenario and therefore I got knocked back and could not activate 2 but off course it started with my mistake by dodging to close the gap.

Hmmm I will definitely try some changes as for now and with the current system and my rank this works the best (since most of the matches I’m kinda forced to fill in the spot that my team did not take for example staying close since most of them ignore the chat and I don’t blame them for having fun instead of getting bashed by a hardcore pvper that failed to get his own team instead of solo qing). If I’m correct the new system balance the players based on rank too not sure.

Thank you all for the feedback I will definitely try them and what my most important goal is to have fun while trying to improve myself

Below text not pointed to you guys (You guys are awesome for giving me feedback and that shows how awesome the GW2 community is) but for the small community of harsh/mean hardcore PvP players.

PS: For all hardcore PvP players that is harsh to all new players. Please find a team or at least understand that we are playing the game for fun after our work in RL (especially the players that wine in Practive and Unranked matches if you want to win in Ranked get a Team).

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

Flumek.9043

Gotta admit youre very good at keeping your calm. I just have to went the frustration out a bit when i see something going wrong for the 100th time

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

Gotta admit youre very good at keeping your calm. I just have to went the frustration out a bit when i see something going wrong for the 100th time

What good does that ever do? As soon as you rage at most people they will almost never do what you want. You have far better luck explaining that you’re outnumbered at mid or that the strategy isn’t working and say you need them elsewhere. Politely.

A lot of people are stuck in their ways and being rude to them isn’t going to guilt them into doing things your way. But if you ask and imply that they are important elsewhere they may listen.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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@Dranor Kunomar

Thank you for the great feedback I really appreciate it. Yes indeed after seeing myself play I can really see the mistakes I make. For some reason when I try to use my lich form skills they don’t want to activate most of the time. Is it just me? If you see in the video you can see that I pushed the buttons a lot of times and they did’t activate during that match I had that in a lot of matches lately. (I’m a WvW roamer so never really used lich form :P)

I do have that problem occasionally as well, but in big world events where lag is a problem. In PvP, it’s usually quite responsive. I say “usually” because I vastly prefer using Plague or Flesh Golem myself, even in Power builds, so I actually have very little experience using Lich Form in PvP.

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Posted by: imaclown.1628

imaclown.1628

Watch your cast bar next time your in lich just to make sure you actually hit the button, could just be having skill lag or your opponent could just be LOSing you, when I see a lich I tend to run straight into it and try to stay on top yet behind them.

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Posted by: Mystogan.4157

Mystogan.4157

Two things

: dont jump off the base in the beggining, it causes you to go into combat making you a bit slower.

: you should try axe/d and d/k*ttenason? Axe dagger for when you need some range and defence. You have the oh dagger for condi clear and weakness while being at range. Throw an energy sigil and youll get a dodge too.

Reason why d/wh is my preffered is because dagger requires you to be on top of the enemy. The ape from swarm cripples and deals decent damage while gaining LF. Plus you have an inteurpt for things like staff guard or any other important skills they could cast

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@ Flumek

keep my calm because I was one of the players that got flamed a lot when I started PvP in the beginning when GW2 was released. I ended up not enjoying PvP (but now I almost have no flames and having fun not sure if the new update caused a better and nicer community but the players that gave me tips ingame they helped me a lot in improving and playing sPvP). They wishper me and explained why what I was doing was wrong so I could understand instead of someone whispering FAR FAR FAR you idiot.

@Dranor

Thank you so much for the advice man it helped me tremendously today won 13 sPvP matches and losed 2 with a 470 ish vs 500 points

@imaclown

yeah after playing more I realize the cast time was just very slow and that I spam everything xD so now I know I need to wait till cast is over before pushing 1 or other skill or it wont cast. So I can’t spam 1 and click 5 togheter.

@Mystogan

Thank you I noticed too today that it put me in combat for like 3 ish seconds.

I tried axe but for those thiefs and mesmer there is no way for me to hit them while in stealth and thats the reason why I completely decided not to use any axe even with the vurnability.

I tried warhorn but it really don’t fit my playstyle :P But I noticed that I can’t stomp good and fast enough with warhorn and ended losing a point because my stomp was interrupted and backup came. If there was a way to time my warhorn 4 to prevent enemy from interrupting then I would reconsider again. As for staff guardian interrupts I haven’t though of that but a very very good point (I will still keep trying warhorn tho but axe is just a no for me atm).

@FLumek

I have looked very closely at your point and saw what you meant today but most points you described was really depending on enemy and situation with the team I was. I mostly solo q so it may be very effective with a complete Team that you pointed out.

Thank you all for your suggestions it really helped me improve a lot

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Posted by: Mystogan.4157

Mystogan.4157

Your best friend against thieves and mesmers are aoe abilities such as your WoD i really dont see how you live with staff i just think marks in general are not great but we have few choices. When i fight thieves and mesmers, if they stealth i would whip out axe/d and use 3 for retaliation and then 5 for weakness. I usually drop 5 right on top of me. After this i would switch to d/wh use 5 for more aoe and if im low i would use 4 to interrupt and if im not i would auto attack till they reappear.

As for stomping the best way to secure a stomp is foot in the grave but i dont even use that. If you need to interrupt ressers you can use ds 3 and if you use wh you should stop stomping Interrupt the resser and do aoe damage. The only class u want to stomp immidately is rangers due to the pet heal. You can also use plague stomp to secure a kill

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Posted by: kwstyle.9148

kwstyle.9148

@mystogan I will try axe again but if I don’t like it I probably will not play it even if it is effective :P if it just don’t fit my play style then it has no use for me to play with it because I don’t like it XD (same with warhorn)

But thanks for the tips will definitely try them out.

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Posted by: Mystogan.4157

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Np i find it amazing for me. When you channel 2 dont rotate the camera with the mouse and move because if the target runs behind you, it will break the channel if u dont follow him. Compared to standing still, where you will automatically follow the target even if he runs behind you. When you auto jst try to stay at 600 range. For me i consider it my more defensive weapon for i use bloodlust on them and sigil of energy.

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Np i find it amazing for me. When you channel 2 dont rotate the camera with the mouse and move because if the target runs behind you, it will break the channel if u dont follow him. Compared to standing still, where you will automatically follow the target even if he runs behind you. When you auto jst try to stay at 600 range. For me i consider it my more defensive weapon for i use bloodlust on them and sigil of energy.

Thanks for the information. I did not like the axe and therefore I will stop playing with it for now. But Thank you all for the awesome feedback I really appreciate it.

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Posted by: Kilger.5490

Kilger.5490

  • i know it wasnt you but DONT. GO. FOR. SVANIR. AT. START……..EVER…. im not joking but you shouldve called the engie an idiot for that and tell him to never do it again. I cant sugar coat it – its a huge beginner mistake, meganoob move

uh oh, I’m afraid to ask, but why shouldnt you go for svanir?

signed, meganoob.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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  • i know it wasnt you but DONT. GO. FOR. SVANIR. AT. START……..EVER…. im not joking but you shouldve called the engie an idiot for that and tell him to never do it again. I cant sugar coat it – its a huge beginner mistake, meganoob move

uh oh, I’m afraid to ask, but why shouldnt you go for svanir?

signed, meganoob.

You are either leaving one of your nodes outnumbered or run the risk of the opposing team “stealing” svanir typically with a theif. It’s better to take the node win the team fights and then if you wipe the opposing team it gives you a little window to take out the bosses if you feel like it.

*yay I’m unbanned lol.

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Posted by: kwstyle.9148

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  • i know it wasnt you but DONT. GO. FOR. SVANIR. AT. START……..EVER…. im not joking but you shouldve called the engie an idiot for that and tell him to never do it again. I cant sugar coat it – its a huge beginner mistake, meganoob move

uh oh, I’m afraid to ask, but why shouldnt you go for svanir?

signed, meganoob.

You are either leaving one of your nodes outnumbered or run the risk of the opposing team “stealing” svanir typically with a theif. It’s better to take the node win the team fights and then if you wipe the opposing team it gives you a little window to take out the bosses if you feel like it.

*yay I’m unbanned lol.

Well for now I experienced that it totally depends on your team xD when solo Q

If 2 of them attack svanir I ain’t going solo at mid and die so in that case I will help kill it instead of rushing solo XD

But all depends on your team and the situation (at least for solo q if you have a complete party I guess its better to discuss strategy with party).

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

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Never try to solo the NPC, but if some others who can take it down fast go for it on your team you should always go along with them in order to build a lot of life force for the team fights ahead.

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Posted by: imaclown.1628

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If I’m solo and I see my team go for svanir and I’m on my necro I don’t go for boss, I still go to mid I’m just very careful not to get pulled off or if I notice the other teams boss moving I might poke down there to see if I can steal it.

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Posted by: kwstyle.9148

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Anyway this all depends on the situation you are in and what team you are facing. Therefore we can discuss as long as we want why it is good or not good to kill svanir in solo Q. There is nothing much to discus what to do or not to do with the boss kill since this depends on a lot of more factor than just 1 thing. If you are in a Team and using Teamspeak then you can adapt to the strategy of the enemy you are facing.

So to avoid a long discussion since their is nothing much to discuss on boss kill since this all depends on the situation teams you are facing etc. (at least that is what I found).

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Posted by: SPESHAL.9106

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Rules like “not going for Svanir” are primitive…especially if you are in an organized group communicating.

The buff is actually meaningful, so as long as you coordinate killing it without exposing your team to being short-handed, it can be a viable strategy and add a significant advantage in team fights.

You received some good advice for necro related things, but I’ll mention a couple strategy things.

You could have easily stomped that ranger at home and not been subsequently killed by the guardian. Your health was low, but you had plenty of LF and you just needed to get away from the pet hitting you. Just dropping down a little bit would have created a z-axis where the pet couldn’t keep hitting you.

After killing 2 guys at far, you decide to go check out far and quickly found that it was a bad idea. Here’s a strategy awareness tip….if you just stomped people, realize that they will be rezzing soon and thus, be near their home/your far. Thus, you can save yourself “wondering” if far is an attractive target and not waste time off a node.

A couple seconds more and you could have been jumped by those 2 guys…stomped…which gives them 5 pts and also greater alive numbers on the map to decap your teams points. Some games, it comes down to something as simple as that mistake costing you the match.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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It’s easily stolen.

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Posted by: kwstyle.9148

kwstyle.9148

Rules like “not going for Svanir” are primitive…especially if you are in an organized group communicating.

The buff is actually meaningful, so as long as you coordinate killing it without exposing your team to being short-handed, it can be a viable strategy and add a significant advantage in team fights.

You received some good advice for necro related things, but I’ll mention a couple strategy things.

You could have easily stomped that ranger at home and not been subsequently killed by the guardian. Your health was low, but you had plenty of LF and you just needed to get away from the pet hitting you. Just dropping down a little bit would have created a z-axis where the pet couldn’t keep hitting you.

After killing 2 guys at far, you decide to go check out far and quickly found that it was a bad idea. Here’s a strategy awareness tip….if you just stomped people, realize that they will be rezzing soon and thus, be near their home/your far. Thus, you can save yourself “wondering” if far is an attractive target and not waste time off a node.

A couple seconds more and you could have been jumped by those 2 guys…stomped…which gives them 5 pts and also greater alive numbers on the map to decap your teams points. Some games, it comes down to something as simple as that mistake costing you the match.

Thank you for the detailed explanation. Off course after watching the video myself I was like that is not smart to do XD

But I decided to make this video to show you all uncut so that more and exciting pvpers can judge and learn from it. Also the main goal for posting on this forum was to get tips and advice from the other necromancer community Thank you all for the advice for improving my gameplay.

I find it important to show the new players my point of view uncut. I know that every mistake I made in that video will be judged but that did not withhold me from posting it on the forum.

My goal is to improve myself as a yolo Q player. and to help new pvpers to learn sPvP instead of only making a montage and show the best part out of xxxx videos where you show that your build is amazing and can’t be killed with a 1 vs x situation.

We need to show others that in reality you need to face the problems and mistakes you make and therefore looking at a complete uncut and unedited video can improve myself and others in sPvP.

So really thank you all for commenting giving me tips and advice. I hoped that not only I but also other players has improved thier sPvP experience.

Also I want to thank Helseth (TheLordHelseth on twitch). For supporting, Hosting me and complementing me on my Twitch livestreams on my VGRyusai channel ^^ It really helped me to get out of my comfort zone as an introvert.

A compliment from an ESL player is always welcome but I would probably will not got any attention from Helseth if I did not show good gameplay live on twitch to helseth and his followers and ofcourse my gameplay improved tremendously after posting the video on YouTube and the forum.

I will do my best to upload more sPvP videos to improve the PvP community and also to improve myself and the Necromancer community.

And again thank you all for commenting if my new videos are up I will make sure to post it here (videos that I post in the forum will only be guides and tips so no montage a montage will be uploaded to my channel but not on the forum). My goal is to help other forum members with tips and not showing them the best gameplay ever made in a montage.

Thank you all for your support etc. and make sure to keep the tips and tricks going! Also if you get frustrated because a new player did not know what to do please give me your tips and advice so I can make a beginners guide with commentary.

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