Guild Wars 2

Hey fellow power necromancers! Was wondering what everyone thinks about the new assassin stat? Similar to zerker but less power and more precision. Was thinking of switching my zerker wraps to assassin ones but I want some input on it.

I’d only use it if I needed higher Crit chance, otherwise I feel like berzerker is better.

I could, perhaps, see a mix of Assassin’s, Beserker’s, and Valkyries to achieve a more durable power build that lost very little in offense, but since power necros typically go 30 in soul reaping and get easy 100% crit chance in death shroud, that’s about all I can see being good.

Full zerker gets to 50% crit chance pretty easy, no real need for assassins, its more of a thing for warriors, thieves and probably even mesmers n guardians that wanna go for a full damage build.

You may want to take a look at this reddit thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1li5q3/breakeven_points_of_power_vs_precision_mathtable/

A full zerker necro has ~160cri dmg (including 50% base), ~2400power, ~50%crit rate
Put us right around the sweet spot.

A full assassin necro has ~160cri dmg , 2200power, ~60%crit rate
It’s about 300-400 power short from the 2572power.

But this didn’t take might/fury into account, also if you run a DS build, there’s the 50% more crit rate.

So I don’t know for sure. So far it seems zerker is better, but if added some might, maybe assassin. At the end I guess it’s very close. If already own a zerker set, I wouldn’t bother switching.

I think zerker would still end up better because we have much better crit chance buffing than power buffing.

it seems like it would lend itself more to being mixed in with other sets, rather than all of one particular stat group. If you are aiming for a particular armor level, or vit level, or crit chance – this set gives the option to boost crit chance, rather than crit damage.

It might be better off mixing into a hybrid build honestly. Hybrid necros generally rely on more reliable crits and not as much power, I can think of maybe 2 of my hybrid builds that could benefit from this but I’m too comfortable with my setup to muck around with it now lol. I don’t think going full assassin would be wise, not for a necro anyway.

Zerker is better on all classes in optimized builds. Some arguement could be made for assassins on mesmer due to reflects though. With full might/fury and buffs most classes reach near enough 100% crit chance anyway. Assassins is a pointless new stat combo unless you combine it with something like valkyrie in a wvw build or something.

The thing with necros is that the only build that would need precision is the 30/10/0/0/30 build, and that build is running deathly perception anyway, so assassins doesn’t have much of a place on necromancers.

Depends on build. With Deathly Perception every single DS shot is crit.

A dagger power necro (non DS#1LB) would benefit more from assassin.

Kajin.5301:

A dagger power necro (non DS#1LB) would benefit more from assassin.

What trait setup are you using for that build?

I turned my old MF set into Assassin’s solely to add crit rate to lower precision builds. Otherwise, there is little difference between the two types. If you already have Berserker’s, Assassin’s is more of a duplicate.

If you’re running the +50% crit chance in DS, the assassin’s stats aren’t worth using.

I’d imagine combining Valkyrie and Assassin to be nice for some Thief builds.
I could be wrong, perhaps it’s not optimal, but some defensive builds running a ton of Acrobatics and wearing Valkyrie stuff can be a tad low on Precision.
(Most of them certainly aren’t)

For Necro, though, I doubt that Assassin’s stuff is worth it.