Problem w/ Necro Tank in Raids

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Posted by: Jarvis.9540

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First off, Blood Necro is awesome at soaking up damage in raids. If you can get threat, you can facetank stuff. The problem is just that… threat. It appears that threat is based on armor rather toughness. As such, it’s tough as a cloth class (even w/ high toughness) to hold threat. Anyone tried this out w/ results they could share?

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Posted by: Warscythes.9307

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Pretty sure is based on toughness and not armor.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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It’s only based on toughness.
However, the Vale Guardian seems to prioritize people who are reviving others even more.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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Toughness is part of the armor value but toughness is over-weighted in the aggro table. It has been this way since the game launched. A player with substantially higher toughness than other players is regarded as a higher threat despite the trade-off of dps to gain that toughness. This contributes a lot to the berserker meta because there is no benefit to lowering dps for more defensive play. Having no additional toughness increases survivability by decreasing your threat value. Dps and healing, on the other hand, are under-weighted, meaning increased dps and heals do not affect aggro as much as toughness.

Your equipment’s total defense value plus toughness is “armor” shown on the hero panel.

Aggro is the result of an AI’s calculated threat priority. A player’s toughness stat is highly weighted, although there are other factors like damage.

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Posted by: Dalent.9358

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Players rezzing also are considered more threatening as well.

Akurn – Asura Necromancer
Elzareth – Asura Mesmer

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Posted by: Vennyhedgie.5369

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I’ve been tanking on necro for the past couple days and never have I lost aggro from the boss when others were ressing. I recomend running death magic for tanking, more toughness per minion as well as per condi inflicted. You wont even need toughness on your gear.

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Posted by: Ghotistyx.6942

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On a whim I made a power chill tank. Self stacking Might and caps vuln (unnecessary I know), but also brings self sustain and heavy damage reduction. Uses Vigilant armor because why not.

Behold, the Chillax Tank. Axe/Focus for boon strip and RP purposes. Otherwise, get some chill on the foe and stay in Shroud. Some of it seems overkill but you can also take this around solo. I just like how well Vigilant armor works.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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It’s only based on toughness.
However, the Vale Guardian seems to prioritize people who are reviving others even more.

Nope. Thats simply because of the warriors ressing. Which they shouldnt be unless absolutely necessary.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Determined_Revival

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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Toughness is part of the armor value but toughness is over-weighted in the aggro table. It has been this way since the game launched. A player with substantially higher toughness than other players is regarded as a higher threat despite the trade-off of dps to gain that toughness.

Aggro has never been consistent like this in any other content actually. Raids are the first examples of content where toughness actually works 100% of the time on all encounters. For old content the aggro requirements are more or less equally weighted with different requirements. And it varies on encounter to encounter and sometimes even seems like RNG.

Thats why tanking has never been a real thing. Because it was impossible to determine what caused aggro and how to control it 100% consistently. There were a few encounters where people worked out some consistent methods. But even those were never proven to be 100% sure fire methods for holding aggro. Old content bosses do however focus pets and minions. So we have alternative tanks even if we cant control player aggro.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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It’s only based on toughness.
However, the Vale Guardian seems to prioritize people who are reviving others even more.

Nope. Thats simply because of the warriors ressing. Which they shouldnt be unless absolutely necessary.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Determined_Revival

Hmm could’ve sworn non-warriors in my group rezzed and we had the same problem. Then again, I was quite tired on that day.