Problem with tooltips or is bleed just bugged?

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

Mallis.4295

So here’s my situation. First my build (sPvP)

Scepter/Dagger

30% condition duration – Trait line
20% bleed duration – Major trait
20% bleed duration – 2 sigils of agony
33% scepter-applied condition duration – Major Trait
15% bleed duration – Rune of Centaur
15% bleed duration – Rune of Krait
10% condition duration – Rune of Lyssa

Now through all of this I should have a total of +143% bleed duration. The scepter 2 skill has a base bleed duration of 7 seconds which goes up to 11 1/2 seconds with all this on. So I’m just wondering if this is a bug or if some of these don’t stack or something as there is nothing indicating it shouldn’t be a 17 second bleed.

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Posted by: Morelia.6835

Morelia.6835

The tooltips are bugged.

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

Mallis.4295

So they are lasting 17 seconds? I haven’t actually had a chance to test it since I noticed that.

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

Mallis.4295

Oh didn’t notice rune of the afflicted thanks.

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Posted by: Highlet.8039

Highlet.8039

I don’t believe those sigils of agony will stack on the weapons. I haven’t tested those particularly, but other sigils only apply to the weapon itself. So, in other words, you would only get 10% from sceptor skills and 10% from dagger skills, not 20% from both. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe this is current spvp functionality on those. Also, that build is glassy as all get out, eek!

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Posted by: Highlet.8039

Highlet.8039

Awesome, thanks for confirming.

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Posted by: Morelia.6835

Morelia.6835

Also I’ll now proceed to steal your build.

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Posted by: Teknomancer.8475

Teknomancer.8475

Might i recommend 2 Runes of the Afflicted instead of Lyssa. You’ll get +28 condition damage, +15% bleed duration.

And yea, tool-tips are bugged.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fQAQNArYWjMap7tbGb87JAoH9qrzRPI24kpKUOA;ToAg1Cqo8xMjYGLMOfkwMCYGA

148% bleed increase.

Link ends up as Bad Link, I wanted to check it out can you repost ? Also for those fo you who have slotted your character with bleed duration / condition duration do you find that to be more viable then just slotting for condition damage / bleed damage? Would love to hear input on that subject.

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Posted by: Morelia.6835

Morelia.6835

Just copy and paste the url into the address bar manually.

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Posted by: Teknomancer.8475

Teknomancer.8475

Just copy and paste the url into the address bar manually.

Oh hey, thanks!
=)

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Posted by: Knote.2904

Knote.2904

Last time I tested (little while before this patch), sceptre auto bleeds were 5 second base duration (not 4) and the 33% longer sceptre trait boosts them by exactly 45% not 33%. While it’s still 33% for Grasping Hands.

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Posted by: Pendragon.8735

Pendragon.8735

Ascii, I cannot duplicate 100%+ chance to bleed on crits with two Sigils of Earth. Some still fail to provide two bleeds with scepter, or one bleed with dagger deathly swarm crits.

I never once saw 3 bleeds from Scepter auto-attack while untraited. If you did, it is likely from the free 5 point trait in your curses line which is a 1 sec bleed on crits itself – separate from the sigil.

Percentages don’t stack like that anyway in math. With two 60% chances, if they are both working your odds to proc a bleed on crit would be very high, but less than 100%. I believe 84% actually.

My testing on the test golems is getting very odd results. The scepter does appear to proc a lot with 2 sigils, prob at the 84% number, but off hand seems far less. And Feast of Corruption seems to rarely ever proc a bleed on crit, and Deathly Swarm is similar on its bounces.

Anyhow figuring out if the extra 24% to proc bleed from two sigils – if they do work – is better than straight out 5% crit sigil is rather tricky.

(edited by Pendragon.8735)

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Posted by: HappyCerberus.3178

HappyCerberus.3178

I already posted this build in the build thread under sPvP pressure build, including some strategy tips.

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Posted by: Teknomancer.8475

Teknomancer.8475

I already posted this build in the build thread under sPvP pressure build, including some strategy tips.

Looks like the trait sections differ a little bit between this build and yours. I think yours would of been more widely known / discussed if you had included a link to the build for ease of use.

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