So I was recently starting to play my necro in pve jff. I realized that the bone minions look pretty good with putrid explosion. The skill causes your bone fiends to explode and deal damage + blast finisher. The amount of damage dealt looks great but then it hit me:
It never ever crits. Why is this skill unable to crit? Even minions are able to crit, so it makes totally no sense at all. Unless I have ultra bad luck with 70 crit chance to not be able to crit.
Anyone has noticed this? It’s extremly annoying cuz it makes an awesome skill useless… Please notice this ANet
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Buff them with fury and they get a whopping 24% crit chance!
In all seriousness ive never understood why we dont have some stat sharing with minions. And traits which give minions boons or just copy our boons to them. Mesmer has plenty of traits which give clones boons.
Buff them with fury and they get a whopping 24% crit chance!
In all seriousness ive never understood why we dont have some stat sharing with minions. And traits which give minions boons or just copy our boons to them. Mesmer has plenty of traits which give clones boons.
Generally speaking I would worry that sharing stats would lead to a nerf of the base stats of minions, which would severely hurt their viability. Mesmer clones/phantasms are extremely different playstyle wise than minions.
For example, if Bone Minions used your crit chance, someone would do some cheese zerker MM build and when putrid explosion his for 4k each and all of a sudden I guarantee ANet would end up nerfing them, or never implementing the necessary changes that have to be made to make MM good (stat sharing isn’t the problem keeping them from working).
Similar problem with boon sharing, although it would be much easier to limit the extent of boon sharing without having issues of different builds getting different “use” out of it, so it would definitely be possible to work it in.
Oh, that’s a disappointment. It would have been a great skill and it felt like the explosion is MY skill and not like a minion attack. Sad sad, another useless ability for pve >_>
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Oh, that’s a disappointment. It would have been a great skill and it felt like the explosion is MY skill and not like a minion attack. Sad sad, another useless ability for pve >_>
I’m not actually sure how useless it is, it is very similar to the elementalist arcane skill, the only real problem I see with it is the ridiculous summon time. Otherwise it is 3.2k (base) damage with 2 blast finishers on a 20s CD.
They could make it scale with your precision/ferocity in PvE though, that would be fair and wouldn’t introduce PvP issues. Or just increase its base damage and lower the summon time, which they should do anyway.
The day minions get stats biased on ours is the day i just plain delete one of my necros. Some of us use minions because of that fact. That being said we do share condition damage and condition duration. But i do agree the ability itself (Putrid Explosion) could use a boost and be based off of our stats. It would weaken mine but i use them as a soft bonus to damage and added blast finishers when needed.
I’m also getting ready to delete the necro if that stat share happens in HoT.
Buff them with fury and they get a whopping 24% crit chance!
In all seriousness ive never understood why we dont have some stat sharing with minions. And traits which give minions boons or just copy our boons to them. Mesmer has plenty of traits which give clones boons.
Generally speaking I would worry that sharing stats would lead to a nerf of the base stats of minions, which would severely hurt their viability. Mesmer clones/phantasms are extremely different playstyle wise than minions.
For example, if Bone Minions used your crit chance, someone would do some cheese zerker MM build and when putrid explosion his for 4k each and all of a sudden I guarantee ANet would end up nerfing them, or never implementing the necessary changes that have to be made to make MM good (stat sharing isn’t the problem keeping them from working).
Similar problem with boon sharing, although it would be much easier to limit the extent of boon sharing without having issues of different builds getting different “use” out of it, so it would definitely be possible to work it in.
Oh of course i agree. Thats why i said some stat sharing. Our minion effecting traits are pretty lacking though as im sure you can agree. All we have is a flat damage boost and a health boost. Those are so boring and have no counter play. If we had boon traits then they could actually be countered with boon removal.
My main gripe is theres just no way to make minions reliably crit. Which is disappointing to me. I want minions to atleast share my base crit chance. And i want a trait to give them fury or maybe some might or even a trait which makes them use your precision. Or maybe something similar to rangers fortifying bond. Those are certainly more interesting traits.
Plus i think 4k putrid explosions is pretty modest even in PvP. We could actually have a different type of burst spec if we could do that.
Oh of course i agree. Thats why i said some stat sharing. Our minion effecting traits are pretty lacking though as im sure you can agree. All we have is a flat damage boost and a health boost. Those are so boring and have no counter play. If we had boon traits then they could actually be countered with boon removal.
100% agree, which is why ronpierce and I made that nice big thread about fixing that :P
My main gripe is theres just no way to make minions reliably crit. Which is disappointing to me. I want minions to atleast share my base crit chance. And i want a trait to give them fury or maybe some might or even a trait which makes them use your precision. Or maybe something similar to rangers fortifying bond. Those are certainly more interesting traits.
It’d be interesting, at least. Pack Runes are very common and very strong for a reason, since fury is a really big damage boost. Might is actually really weak IIRC, I don’t believe their abilities have high power coefficients at all.
Plus i think 4k putrid explosions is pretty modest even in PvP. We could actually have a different type of burst spec if we could do that.
4k each (against a higher armor target) is very strong. Against a glass cannon build that is probably 9k damage total, on top of Well of Corruption, and still leaves you an open slot for a stun break. That is a ton of damage to get on a 20s CD. And that was assuming 2.0 crit modifier, and no other damage modifiers except TotM. Its not necessarily too strong, but I would definitely worry that it would lead to possible nerfs.
Oh, that’s a disappointment. It would have been a great skill and it felt like the explosion is MY skill and not like a minion attack. Sad sad, another useless ability for pve >_>
I’m not actually sure how useless it is, it is very similar to the elementalist arcane skill, the only real problem I see with it is the ridiculous summon time. Otherwise it is 3.2k (base) damage with 2 blast finishers on a 20s CD.
They could make it scale with your precision/ferocity in PvE though, that would be fair and wouldn’t introduce PvP issues. Or just increase its base damage and lower the summon time, which they should do anyway.
Arcane Skills can crit and are either a heal skill or instant. They are great for everything. Every skill that is damage based in pve that can’t crit is total garbage. It bugs me because if it would be able to crit like I do, it would be a very good yet not just easy to use skill (blind proc in our fields). But it’s just worthless now.
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It’s bad designed yea but i could live with that. It just should share my crit chance to be viable in pve.
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