Guild Wars 2

Do I want to be more tanky with knights, or do I want to do more damage with Zerker

With all the minions tanking, you can afford having less defense. So Zerker.

Does this hold true in dungeons too? Or is MM not a good idea in dungeons?

Wouldnt recommend minions for dungeons. Zerker is always best for dungeons though.

I disagree with the above statements. Minions die pretty quickly and don’t “tank” for you. Most boss attacks are indiscriminate when it comes to targets. The only time when a minion can noticeably tank for you as far as I’ve seen in my 800 MM necro hours, is the lupicus fight as he’ll sometimes target minions with his abilities (which is great because it takes a lot of pressure off your party).

With that in mind I find tanky gear is best paired up with minions. My personal preference is soldiers, but if you want to still deal extra damage I guess knights is good too. You can run zerker gear, but If you’re going to use zerker gear you might as well run a death shroud build.

You should try to keep in mind that full zerker parties only work for a party of very good players. Any pug group of full zerker (outside of CoF) will get stomped on and wiped pretty easily. Having that survivability is really useful for these situations.

MM is so bad in dungeon, I assumed OP meant open world for “PVE”. And in open world, minions DO tank. Also nothing hit hard enough to justify tanky gear.

For dungeon, just don’t run MM.

That’s all as I thought. Thx.

Haters be hatin up in this thread.

Minions are fine for dungeons, so long as you bring them into the right dungeon. Some dungeons have really anti-minion mechanics, some are just fine. Its all down to the dungeon itself. If your minions are always dying and you’re not in one of the supercrazymassAoE dungeons you’re not a good MM.

striker.3704:

I disagree with the above statements. Minions die pretty quickly and don’t “tank” for you. Most boss attacks are indiscriminate when it comes to targets. The only time when a minion can noticeably tank for you as far as I’ve seen in my 800 MM necro hours, is the lupicus fight as he’ll sometimes target minions with his abilities (which is great because it takes a lot of pressure off your party).

With that in mind I find tanky gear is best paired up with minions. My personal preference is soldiers, but if you want to still deal extra damage I guess knights is good too. You can run zerker gear, but If you’re going to use zerker gear you might as well run a death shroud build.

You should try to keep in mind that full zerker parties only work for a party of very good players. Any pug group of full zerker (outside of CoF) will get stomped on and wiped pretty easily. Having that survivability is really useful for these situations.

I totally agree with you
I use full soldier gear with this build http://tinyurl.com/opjsdrw
You don’t want a zerger in MM build as your foe will die in sec anyways ( when your army is alive ).
But if you have zerger and they died , your chance to get killed will be too high,
The difference between zerger and soldier is criticals , which isn’t important that much as you just have one skill that noticeably affected by criticals which is Dagger chain attacks. Soldier gear increases your armor and vitality ( your downed and DS pools too ).

Bhawb.7408:

Haters be hatin up in this thread.

Minions are fine for dungeons, so long as you bring them into the right dungeon. Some dungeons have really anti-minion mechanics, some are just fine. Its all down to the dungeon itself. If your minions are always dying and you’re not in one of the supercrazymassAoE dungeons you’re not a good MM.

I agree , but they should master the MM build before judging it. I mastered it
A good MM necro knows how to keep his minions alive and affective.

Bhawb.7408:

Haters be hatin up in this thread.

Minions are fine for dungeons, so long as you bring them into the right dungeon. Some dungeons have really anti-minion mechanics, some are just fine. Its all down to the dungeon itself. If your minions are always dying and you’re not in one of the supercrazymassAoE dungeons you’re not a good MM.

This is certainly true for CoE, There is simply no place for minions against any of the bosses there. Also certain fractals (like the Dredge fractal final boss) have AOEs that increase in number based on number of allies.

CoE is a big one because it has a lot of bosses that have more to do with working their mechanics 100%; and their mechanics are either unaffected by minions, or are made even harder by their presence.

I would not go berserker or knights. Get balanced armor. Knight’s is too conservative and zerk is too aggressive. You want enough damage to draw aggro and enough defense to survive tanking for your minions, who will utterly refuse to dodge and die, anyway. I prefer soldier’s gear but you can fake it with a mix of lots of things or straight up temple gear. Traiting for minions will set you up similar to a soldier’s stat. I would run axe/focus taking mastery of both weapons and training of the master to maximize minion damage.

Thanks everyone

Sorry to hijack the thread, but where/how do I get soldiers armour?
I cant find a recipe for a soldier’s gossamer insignia and nothing shows on the TP under soldier’s exalted.

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You can take a look at this page:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Equipment_acquisition_by_stats