Guild Wars 2

I bought this game 2 weeks ago and I have had tons of fun playing this game as a Necromancer that uses minions. But I want to know what you guys use to make them kick kitten in PvP, because I like to stick with that approach. Like what stats should I emphasize and stuff.

Unlike PvE/WvW all our stats in PvP come from our trinket choice. You need to decide whether you want to go Power (Berserker), Condition (Rabid/Carrion/Dire), or Bunker (Soldier/Knight). Certain prefixes combo better with different weapon sets and your trait choices will determine which runes/sigils fit best.

Weapon Sets:
Power – Axe (Mainhand)+ Focus/Warhorn (Offhand)
Condition – Scepter (Mainhand) + Dagger/Focus (Offhand)
Bunker – Axe/Dagger (Mainhand) + Warhorn (Offhand)
All Purpose Utility – Staff (2hand)

These are some of the builds I use, but there are other variations out there. Play around with different build types and find out what works best for you.

Wellomancer (Power)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBHhZakjmibbpxmG+bTMMUSmCZwk3QQEdAEBjLA-TphFwAAeAAKOBAMOCAj2fIxhAYaZAA

Terrormancer (Condition)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UcbvNm3wfbigBRyWdiuRgIU+NKA-TpRFwANOCAAeAAK3fIxJAIaZAFHCAA

Minion Master (Bunker)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAndWjM00VbTNu1webicBR6Y3qN5xnQGYGA-TpRBwAbOBAdOCAB3focZANHCAAPAAA

Main hand weapon choices: Axe, Dagger, Staff
Off hand weapon choices: any
Healing skill choices: Consume Conditions, Well of Blood
Utility skills: Bone Minions, Shadow Fiend or Bone Fiend, Flesh Wurm
Elite skill: Flesh Golem
Sigils: fairly open, pick things that make sense
Runes: see above
Amulets: Soldier or Cleric

This is my build although I’m kind of toying around with it since I think it might be a bit too lacking in damage for certain fights.

I personally feel like minion master necro is only really suited for bunkering home in organized pvp. They lack the mobility to go far and the minions get bursted too quickly during teamfights, especially since staff ele became popular again. Due to the above issues, i rarely play mm necro. Condition necro is really fun in the mid fights if you have decent tean support. Power necro can out 1v1 most classes if played correctly with all your cooldowns up. If anyone tries to tell you thief counters any type of necro build, they arent playing it right or they didnt have life force to start the fight.

For pvp you want to gain as much life force as early as possible

Ok you beat a s/d theif on a power necro please oh please take the video of it so I can make sure the theif isn’t kittening awful.

NeXeD.3042:

Ok you beat a s/d theif on a power necro please oh please take the video of it so I can make sure the theif isn’t kittening awful.

I beat a S/D Thief in a WvW duel the other day. He beat me the first time, I beat him the second time, then the third time someone from the other server shot me for 2.5k in the back, otherwise it was close (but I lost).

Any time you analyze a video of someone winning, you can probably point out what the other player SHOULD have done at a particular time. Hindsight is 20/20. Everyone always watches for the other player doing something silly, or mistiming something, and they never seem to acknowledge when the player who won forced the other person’s hand or timed their own abilities well. That’s how most of these video shares go.

I still wouldn’t mind seeing any/all duel videos people have, though.

Where you condi? He said on a powrmancer.

I know that about videos it wasn’t so I could critique him or anything it was so I could make sure the theif wasn’t a complete moron.

I’m going to go ahead and say that the average theif I find roaming around wvw is not the same as the s/d theives I run into in top of soloq.

NeXeD.3042:

Where you condi? He said on a powrmancer.

I haven’t been condi in a full age. I run 6/2/0/0/6 with cav Armor and zerker weapons/accessories, Dagger+Focus/Axe+Dagger, SA + Corrupt Boon + Plague Signet. And I never use elites in duels because I hate Flesh Golem, and the other two ruin them, in my opinion.

@NeXeD: I run 6/0/0/2/6 Staff & D/D (Str & fire sigil on D/D, Int & chilling on staff) powermancer, traveler’s runes + barbarian ammy… it’s about a 50/50 shot against a thief for me.

Nuking the hell outta the bubble helps (Enfeebling Blood →Chillblains →Reaper’s Mark) as does Spiteful Spirit (3 sec Retal on DS). MoE helps a bit, since he’s going to want to stay on me. CPC helps a lot in forcing a disengage & punishing him if he wants to go toe-to-toe. Dagger #3 to force stunbreak/CD and Dagger #2/4 to be annoying. I swap between Plague & Flesh Golem for elites, depending on what mood I’m in- FG for obvious knockdown/stun (and subsequent stunbreak force), Plague to lolyoucanthitme.

I’ve found as necromancer (and probably every profession), pvp is about forcing your opponent to make careless errors. That’s what I do.

Against a theif yes, I’m not talking about any theives. I mean the GOOD s/d evasion theives. Not the ones running around invisible the entire time the ones that everytime you try to hit them with an attack just evade the stupid thing in plain sight.

Also I mean PvP, not wvw. They are not the same. If your experience is mostly wvw then you should probably go play pvp for a while until you get high up in the soloq those are the s/d theives I’m talking about. I trash the ones I usually run into in hotjoins.

Nah, everything’s spvp. While it’s been mostly hotjoin (because f*** yoloQ), I’m typically against R50+ (R20, myself lol) if that means anything.

If you haven’t already, spectate on a few good ones and ask someone to train you. The latter I used to do fairly often on that other MMO and it helped a good bit.

I don’t do solo queue because I stopped dealing with elitist children when I quit WoW. Now, if ANet implements random arenas in GW2, I may give it a shot.

I’m sorry for not being able to help much beyond this.

Thor Rising.7850:

I personally feel like minion master necro is only really suited for bunkering home in organized pvp. They lack the mobility to go far and the minions get bursted too quickly during teamfights, especially since staff ele became popular again. Due to the above issues, i rarely play mm necro

You can easily rotate far on MM, especially since you can generally camp that point for ages afterwards. You will almost always force someone off any mid fight, or you’ll force a 1v1 with their home point bunker.

And teamfights aren’t nearly as big of a deal as people assume, even if there is a staff ele. Flesh Golem has a lot of HP and armor and if you are properly built you can heal him for 5k with Transfusion + just shy of 1k per weapon swap, he isn’t going to die all that quickly. Bone minions exist to die anyway (their DPS is actually better if you simply summon → kill them on CD), and all the other minions you have are ranged and won’t be in the area to get hit by AoE. So you have a grand total of one minion, who has the defensive base stats of a Warrior, that will die to AoE, not all that big of a deal.

Highchu.3806:

Unlike PvE/WvW all our stats in PvP come from our trinket choice. You need to decide whether you want to go Power (Berserker), Condition (Rabid/Carrion/Dire), or Bunker (Soldier/Knight). Certain prefixes combo better with different weapon sets and your trait choices will determine which runes/sigils fit best.

Weapon Sets:
Power – Axe (Mainhand)+ Focus/Warhorn (Offhand)
Condition – Scepter (Mainhand) + Dagger/Focus (Offhand)
Bunker – Axe/Dagger (Mainhand) + Warhorn (Offhand)
All Purpose Utility – Staff (2hand)

These are some of the builds I use, but there are other variations out there. Play around with different build types and find out what works best for you.

Wellomancer (Power)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBHhZakjmibbpxmG+bTMMUSmCZwk3QQEdAEBjLA-TphFwAAeAAKOBAMOCAj2fIxhAYaZAA

Terrormancer (Condition)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UcbvNm3wfbigBRyWdiuRgIU+NKA-TpRFwANOCAAeAAK3fIxJAIaZAFHCAA

Minion Master (Bunker)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAndWjM00VbTNu1webicBR6Y3qN5xnQGYGA-TpRBwAbOBAdOCAB3focZANHCAAPAAA

May wanna go with the Minion Master here, because quite frankly, I don’t wanna take down the enemy myself but rather give the enemy distractions while facing off my teammates.

NeXeD.3042:

Against a theif yes, I’m not talking about any theives. I mean the GOOD s/d evasion theives. Not the ones running around invisible the entire time the ones that everytime you try to hit them with an attack just evade the stupid thing in plain sight.

Also I mean PvP, not wvw. They are not the same. If your experience is mostly wvw then you should probably go play pvp for a while until you get high up in the soloq those are the s/d theives I’m talking about. I trash the ones I usually run into in hotjoins.

Believe it or not but power necro is only zerker that can actually kill 10/0/0/30/30 S/D thief in 1v1, ive defeated every single good S/D thief i know Sizer included but you wont do it if you play with axe instead of dagger, ofcourse it favours thief and if he catches you with no cooldowns, 0 life force or not full hp then it wont happen if thief doesnt f up.

Edit: ontopic Staff is must have weapon for any PVP necro and Axe is completely garbage weapon for PVP, many might disagree but not many have been in top 100 soloq/teamq with power necro.

Yeah when I play power spec it’s almost always dagger horn staff. And I did make it into top 100 on a power necro. Definitely not zerker though. Honestly I don’t think I could on a zerker necro… but I guess the build I was using would be the one to try it on. I have a much easier time killing those thieves as a condi spec for some reason.

NeXeD.3042:

Yeah when I play power spec it’s almost always dagger horn staff. And I did make it into top 100 on a power necro. Definitely not zerker though. Honestly I don’t think I could on a zerker necro… but I guess the build I was using would be the one to try it on. I have a much easier time killing those thieves as a condi spec for some reason.

Everything in PVP is easier on condi ^^ but zerker is only way you can kill the thiefs on power necro cause only way their gonna die is from high burst.

I don’t find that everything is easier on condi dunno why but one of the craziest thing with me is I actually have more rouble against engis on a condi spec than I do on a power spec and I don’t even mean turret ones.