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Posted by: pking.5324

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Hello guys I am trying to get skilled on the necromancer class and I cant seem to find any guides for it. If you guys have a guide and any tips then please share with me.

Thank you In advance guys

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

Cogbyrn.7283

First: Ignore any comments that tell you to re-roll.

Second: Let us know what sort of playstyle you are looking for. Power? Condi? The tips/tricks are going to vary.

Third: Ignore any comments that tell you to re-roll.

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Posted by: pking.5324

pking.5324

I enjoy playing condition necromancer with scepter/dagger and staff. I don’t mind you telling me some tips for power necromancer as well, because I do play it sometimes.

Edit: Even if the tips you have are easy/simple things, I would still like to hear them.

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

Pelopidas.2140

DS is super important offensively and defensively…Spectral armor+ds is our kind of invulnerability…the usual ds combo is to jump in ds, use skill 5 then 2 and skill 3…Use Consume Conditions only if you’re sure you won’t be interrupted, if you have dagger mainhand you can immob an enemy in your wells, and if they cleanse and try to escape you can spectral pull em back inside…Use dagger offhand skill 4 when you are close to your opponent so he won’t dodge…Signet of Spite+ fear chain is a usual faceroll…So many people still don’t avoid Spectral Wall, so you can have some fun with it, especially in skyhammer..against condi warriors i wait for them to stack 20 bleeds on me then transfer back+their immob from sword F1…use flesh wurm on a position that the enemy can’t just AoE it for a steady dps and a quick escape…against thieves keep staff 5 for the bubble..condi focus the mesmers, fear the engi (but dont open with fear against engis or they get stability), dodge the hambow, corrupt the bunker guard, interrupt the thief, poison the ranger, eles either suck and die right away or they cant die and always disengage and heal up……Minionmancers suck…Chill of death on power necro can destroy eles…As a power necro with Chill of Death and 2 life blasts+dhuumfire one can do 12-15k damage in 4-5 sec against eles and thieves.
And lastly necro is good in boon stripping/converting, so use Path of Corruption or Corrupt Boon or Well of Corruption.

cant think of something else right now

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Posted by: Souldestructor.9576

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You put in everything that was needed.
Here’s a build i made it’s a re-vamped version of my conversion build.

http://intothemists.com/guides/4322-espirituses_circle_of_death_20

The previous build had only 1 stun break. though the build had it’s strengths

Here is the first attempt on it.

http://intothemists.com/guides/4314-espirituses_circle_of_death

Both are Terrormancer.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

This my current tpvp power build 3 stunbreaks lots of lf regen, semi invuln at times keeps pressure on target even while stunned which is what I think is wrong with alot of our power builds also uses poc to strip stab and might as much as you can.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UTb5N22webCchC6DIAi2I/gJgytYMA-TZRHwAw2fIwJAAZZAAHCABPBAA

This is a dhuum terror build uses power and condi

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UTb5N22webCchC6DIAi2I/gJgytYMA-TZRHwAw2fIwJAAZZAAHCABPBAA

This is a terrormancer using poc and reapers protection as well as two stunbreaks.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UTbtNe2wfbighSyW4DiuBCgzlykIKA-TJxHwAA3f4YZAxnCAAPBAA

On a side note the minor trait you get in soulreaping does not count as a stunbreak. It is not an on demand break and it could happen when you aren’t even stunned.

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Posted by: pking.5324

pking.5324

Thank you for the responses guys!!
I have some questions for you guys, if you don’t mind answering.

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1. Why do you use Well of Corruption instead of another stun break?

2. Whenever I play hotjoins I get constantly ganked and I die without even putting up a fight. Is there any way to avoid this? [other than avoiding outnumbered fights]

3. I feel lost without the soul marks trait in Soul reaping trait line. How can I stack deathshroud in fights so that I have a good up time on it? I don’t think spamming staff auto is very good because I’m going to be taking damage in 1v1s and in team fights I feel like am just letting the fight pass me by.

4. Am I supposed to get knocked around like a ping pong ball versus engineers, or am I not playing it right?

5. Is carrion amulet better for conditions over rabid amulet? [Rabid is like my crutch because I get bursted pretty easily without it]

6. When is the best time to condi bomb someone? [ I sort of have an idea but I’m not 100% sure on this]

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Those Are all the questions I can think of right now

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

1. Not sure who you mean.

2. No, your going to get ganked. Positioning can help a little. Yes avoid the crazy outnumbered fights also learn what classes and builds hard counter the one your using.

3. Spectral utilities, Scepter 3, Staff auto attack, stuff dying these are really the only ways on a terrormancer. But at the beginning of a match switch all your utilities to minions summon the minions, then switch the utilities back to the traits you want and your minions will die giving you lifeforce so your not at a huge disadvantage when the match starts. If you try out that power build I linked your ds regen will be insane with dagger auto, warhorn 5 spectral utilities staff auto.

4. We are supposed to get knocked around by any class that can knock people around welcome to the struggle. The key is recovering quickly and keeping pressure on the opponent.

5. I really don’t have an answer to that question… I tend to use carrion on the dhuum terror build since I will be life blasting more often on that one. I use rhabid on the PoC Terrormancer.

6. When they have burned their condi cleanses…. its hard to give you an answer here.

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Posted by: Infect.2738

Infect.2738

Thank you for the responses guys!!
I have some questions for you guys, if you don’t mind answering.

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1. Why do you use Well of Corruption instead of another stun break?

2. Whenever I play hotjoins I get constantly ganked and I die without even putting up a fight. Is there any way to avoid this? [other than avoiding outnumbered fights]

3. I feel lost without the soul marks trait in Soul reaping trait line. How can I stack deathshroud in fights so that I have a good up time on it? I don’t think spamming staff auto is very good because I’m going to be taking damage in 1v1s and in team fights I feel like am just letting the fight pass me by.

4. Am I supposed to get knocked around like a ping pong ball versus engineers, or am I not playing it right?

5. Is carrion amulet better for conditions over rabid amulet? [Rabid is like my crutch because I get bursted pretty easily without it]

6. When is the best time to condi bomb someone? [ I sort of have an idea but I’m not 100% sure on this]

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Those Are all the questions I can think of right now

I promised id stop by and take a look so here i am Several other people in here have offered up some good info already though.

1. Using well of corruption really depends on the build. I will assume you either saw a necro running with it on condi or saw a power necro running double wells. What the well offers is more cleave/control (if you use it for stab corruption) and LF generation due to a bug (which honestly should just stay)

2. Positioning is your best friend. With good positioning, it makes it a pain for the enemy to tunnel you and allows for a easier time for your team to peel for you. With that being said, hotjoins aren’t really what the game is balanced around due to all those people (unless its a 5v5 hotjoin)

3. Yes soul marks is amazing. You honestly could still run it in a condi build which i have used to pretty good effect (0/6/2/0/6). As for not using it, make sure you are pre spawning your minions before the match starts then swapping. Also using staff auto at the beginning of a team fight isnt all that bad. You just need enough LF to spike someone unless you’re in a bad position and need to soak damage with it.

4. Positioning will help fix this and having access to aoe stab from a guard will….otherwise yes we are one of the easiest classes to CC

5. I find this to be funny kinda. Carrion actually has the highest burst protection due to the way it scales with ds and ehp. Rabid is better overall protection. NeXeD also gave some good reasoning, but you can swap the amulets around in builds based on team comp/playstyle. I personally prefer carrion due to the amount of warriors/eles in the game. Allows some pressure when they are cleansing like mad.

6. Hmmm this really isnt a straight forward answer. There are several different timing windows based on each class then each spec of those classes. Let alone different timing windows when other players join the picture with you, both enemy and friendly. The best advice i can offer is just play and you will start seeing when people are vulnerable. Don’t rush it, just play smartly against people and the window to blow them up will appear. Also try and communicate your burst if you are playing with a team.

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Posted by: Souldestructor.9576

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Warriors: Simple, once berserker’s stance is down condi bomb them.

Necro’s: you’ll have to watch out for especially MM ones, the only way to condi bomb them is if they are running the minion for healing, which not many MM’s should be running since they have cruddy condi cleanse already. for Condi specced Necro’s just have them condi bomb you and redirect back to them.

Guardian’s: Medi builds are quite different than shout builds. Medi wait till they use contemplation of purity to condi bomb them with corrupt boon. shouts – condi bomb them with corrupt boon and then Fear chain.

Thieves: Just gotta interrupt, evade timingly, once you got them cornered condi bomb them. normally all thieves play glass anyway so they go down quickly.

Engie’s: make sure you condi them before fearing or they get stab. otherwise condi bomb after they dodge. they don’t have the best condi cleansing. Fear chain as well.

Ele’s: They play glassy sometimes but anytime they have tons of boons, Condi bomb once they have switched out of water attunement. THAT’s your best bet.

Ranger’s: Depending on healing but they can always have Empathic Bond, removes 3 condis to pet. with that one kill both pets and then condi bomb ranger especially after heal too.

Mesmer’s: They don’t run a lot of condi cleanse so 2 ways to deal with it. force them to use Arcane Thievery or Null Field, after that is used condi bomb them. If they are using Napalm Mes in PvP gonna be harder when they are invis all the time and using mantra heal with 3 stacks and mender’s purity. 2 per 1 heal mantra used = 6 total condi’s removed. has a 10 sec cd if you can condi bomb them 24/7 you can screw them up.

Only ways i see can get passed them. 1v1 but i do agree with Infect, the windows can drastically change with more friendly and enemy players that hop into the fray.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

Wouldn’t you condi bomb the ele when they attune to water?

The MM one well if you bomb them and they actually burn their heal for condis that mm is kittening dead. If it’s a fetid consumption MM wait until you have either killed a minion or two, or he has blown his bone minions transfer that poison and fear chain the kitten out of him especially if you notice his wurm died or if he’s not running it he’s probably screwed anyway.

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