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Posted by: Kam.4092

Kam.4092

Why does it say Axe over Scepter for the Condi build? Is it because of the boon corrupt?

Also is Scepter ever used?

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Posted by: Famine.7915

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Yes scepter is used, but people probably want axe for aoe corrupt. I never heard anyone saying this myself. I personally use a power build that has far more corruption ability and burst potential. Real good for quickly killing key targets and that uses axe though. :/

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Posted by: Avigrus.2871

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Correct – Axe for AOE boon ripping….. When you have a bunch of Necros boon ripping at once it can be really powerful.

I still prefer scepter.

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Posted by: FrostDraco.8306

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Use scepter and well of corruption.

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Posted by: Tongku.5326

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Scepter >>>>> Axe unless its part of your particular team meta. If your team either lacks in boon strips or designates you as such then go for it.

Otherwise you have plenty of corrupt / boon strip sources and don’t need axe and the extra soft CC from scepter (cripple) is great as well.

Double that if you run Superior Sigil of Ice on your scepter and have some base crit rate (around 20-30%) along with the appropriate traits, which incidentally also procs while you are in Reaper Shroud.

Axe can’t even come close in either total DPS or utility, maybe on paper, or stationary targets or PVE, but in practical mobile DPS application, properly set up scepter beats it by heaps and bounds.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

Boon Corruption,
2 deep, fat no-aim aoe

Scepter just cannot compete in a group setting. Too many fail to realize Reaper’s greatest utility is boon corruption.

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Posted by: FrostDraco.8306

FrostDraco.8306

Boon Corruption,
2 deep, fat no-aim aoe

Scepter just cannot compete in a group setting. Too many fail to realize Reaper’s greatest utility is boon corruption.

Scepter is better in a group on a condi necro. More overall AOE damage, and you average around the same amount of boon corruption due to how axe as a long cd.

On power i would use axe, axe is useless on condi.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

Boon Corruption,
2 deep, fat no-aim aoe

Scepter just cannot compete in a group setting. Too many fail to realize Reaper’s greatest utility is boon corruption.

Scepter is better in a group on a condi necro. More overall AOE damage, and you average around the same amount of boon corruption due to how axe as a long cd.

On power i would use axe, axe is useless on condi.

its about how the boon corruption is delivered.

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Posted by: Tongku.5326

Tongku.5326

Boon Corruption,
2 deep, fat no-aim aoe

Scepter just cannot compete in a group setting. Too many fail to realize Reaper’s greatest utility is boon corruption.

Scepter is better in a group on a condi necro. More overall AOE damage, and you average around the same amount of boon corruption due to how axe as a long cd.

On power i would use axe, axe is useless on condi.

its about how the boon corruption is delivered.

its also about knowing your other options to strip and not wasting a whole weapon slot for it.

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Posted by: Kam.4092

Kam.4092

All these replies confused the hell out of me.

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Posted by: Toll Booth Willie.6723

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Axe is a decent power option with a solid boon corrupt. It could be used with cond. Imo scepter would likely be the better option in most cases. That said I have been playing around with some hybrid options using axe/GS//staff, for kicks that have been okay. Really though it’s about finding you style and how you like to play.

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Posted by: Avigrus.2871

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Scepter >>>>> Axe unless its part of your particular team meta. If your team either lacks in boon strips or designates you as such then go for it.

Pretty much this.

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Posted by: DuckDuckBOOM.4097

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Scepter is a good condi weapon when you are fighting single targets. Brings diversity of conditions and boon corrupt on 3rd auto. Love it in pve, pvp and when roaming in wvw.

Assuming you are talking about this build:
https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Reaper_-_Shout_Reaper

The cele axe corrupt build is about zerg fights though not single target damage. Sc1, 3 and Axe1, 2 are all “useless” to this playstyle because they are single target and require a target. The corrupt doubly so because nobody has time for a full scepter auto to be wasted on 1 person when you should be chaining other skills together for multiple aoe corrupts. So what you need to compare are axe 3 vs scepter 2 for zerg aoe. Given how strong stability and resistance are, axe 3 is just better. Being able to hit axe 3 and then go into RS and then use RS2 corrupts 5 boons in an aoe in roughly the same time it takes for scepter to remove 1 boon against 1 target makes the boon corrupt on scepter laughable in zerg scenarios.

Carry a scepter and axe. When roaming/running to a zerg use the scepter. When in the zerg, swap to axe. The power damage also isn’t that bad on axe when using the cele gear but more importantly, the damage your zerg does is more important that a bit of damage you get from scepter 2 in an aoe. Corrupts will often do damage too anyways.

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Posted by: Kam.4092

Kam.4092

Scepter is a good condi weapon when you are fighting single targets. Brings diversity of conditions and boon corrupt on 3rd auto. Love it in pve, pvp and when roaming in wvw.

Assuming you are talking about this build:
https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Reaper_-_Shout_Reaper

The cele axe corrupt build is about zerg fights though not single target damage. Sc1, 3 and Axe1, 2 are all “useless” to this playstyle because they are single target and require a target. The corrupt doubly so because nobody has time for a full scepter auto to be wasted on 1 person when you should be chaining other skills together for multiple aoe corrupts. So what you need to compare are axe 3 vs scepter 2 for zerg aoe. Given how strong stability and resistance are, axe 3 is just better. Being able to hit axe 3 and then go into RS and then use RS2 corrupts 5 boons in an aoe in roughly the same time it takes for scepter to remove 1 boon against 1 target makes the boon corrupt on scepter laughable in zerg scenarios.

Carry a scepter and axe. When roaming/running to a zerg use the scepter. When in the zerg, swap to axe. The power damage also isn’t that bad on axe when using the cele gear but more importantly, the damage your zerg does is more important that a bit of damage you get from scepter 2 in an aoe. Corrupts will often do damage too anyways.

Thank you for your informative reply

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Posted by: DaVid Darksoul.4985

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I use axe for both the boon ripping and the burst, which scepter doesn’t have. Condi them up and rip them down.

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Posted by: zectra.6978

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I run Axe/Dagger – Staff – only for boon corrupt, 99% of my dmg comes from ripping boons, marks, and reaper shroud.

If you can target a backline, corrupt boon, well, axe #3 then epi? It’s almost a guaranteed 5 down.

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