Reaper: Add Some Support!

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Posted by: piano man.1672

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Necromancer is really lacking group support like others classes have, and I feel the Reaper was an opportunity to help Necromancer’s out. From what we’ve seen about the Reaper so far, ANet didn’t do a very good job at giving us some group support.

Looking over some of the skills/traits for Reaper, I updated a few skills to provide at least some group support to the Reaper/Necromancer.

Updated things to add group support will be in [brackets].

“Your soul is mine!” Heal yourself and strike foes around you, absorbing life force [and applying regeneration to nearby allies. Life force gained and the duration of regeneration is increased] for each foe struck.

“Suffer!” Damage foes around you and chill them. Transfer a condition to each foe you strike, [and cleanse a condition on each nearby ally.].

“You are all weaklings!” Damage foes around you inflicting conditions on them and giving you [and nearby allies] boons per foe struck.

Traits
Cold Shoulder Chill lasts longer, and chilled foes deal less damage to you [and to nearby allies].
V Chilling Force Striking a chilled foe grants might [to you and nearby allies] and life force [to yourself].

Just some ideas for ANet and the community. Feel free to share your thoughts….

Kharros 80 Warr | Dead on Revival 80 Necro | Yoxx 80 Guard | Khoton 80 Thief | Thera Majere 80 Ele

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Posted by: kitsune.3741

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please note that they said they where reworking the blood tree to be our support tree

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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We don’t need to throw uninspired and frankly mediocre support onto every ability. The point of Reaper is not to be a source of support, it just isn’t meant to do that. We need support yes, it doesn’t mean we need to throw it at every single skill that has some semblance of ability to be forced into support.

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Posted by: piano man.1672

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please note that they said they where reworking the blood tree to be our support tree

I forgot about ANet mentioning on the stream about the Blood Magic line having more support, thanks for mentioning it.
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We don’t need to throw uninspired and frankly mediocre support onto every ability. The point of Reaper is not to be a source of support, it just isn’t meant to do that. We need support yes, it doesn’t mean we need to throw it at every single skill that has some semblance of ability to be forced into support.

“We don’t need to throw uninspired and frankly mediocre support onto every ability.” Well firstly, they can be updated/changed to better suit the class and have better support. I’m not on the skill balance team, I’m just a dude thinking out loud if you will. And having at least mediocre support is better than no support at all.

“We need support yes, it doesn’t mean we need to throw it at every single skill that has some semblance of ability to be forced into support.”
I only listed/updated 5 skills and traits above, a very small percentage to the total amount of skills on the Necromancer, and all of the skills and traits I listed do not change the effects they have on the Reaper himself.

Honestly I couldn’t see Reaper being a support class either, but I figured adding something into the spec that helps out Necro in the group-support department would be, in some way or another, beneficial. Maybe these skills/traits can give ANet or other players ideas as suggestions? I also don’t care if Reaper gets support stuff. Maybe these suggestions can trickle over to other Necromancer skills and trait lines? It doesn’t hurt to provide input for the developers, and the playerbase, to read and to discuss.

There were a lot of people complaining that Necro doesn’t have the support that is on par with other professions, and there were a lot of people complaining that Reaper didn’t fix this problem. This would cater more to those who agreed with these than those who don’t.

Thanks for the thoughts/comments.

Kharros 80 Warr | Dead on Revival 80 Necro | Yoxx 80 Guard | Khoton 80 Thief | Thera Majere 80 Ele

(edited by piano man.1672)

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Posted by: Foomnz.6954

Foomnz.6954

Very much agree with Bhawb

and I also want to add

Keeping the Necros support options focused on debuffing enemy’s offers a unique and interesting play-style that should differentiate Necros from other classes.

If they just give Necros some team support options as demanded by the unwashed masses we will just become really kittenty elementalist copy’s, and still wont be “meta”

What we should be Demanding….ah, I mean to say asking for politely.
Is content that rewards the Debuff focused Necro as much as their party supporting counterparts

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Posted by: Diovid.9506

Diovid.9506

The core necromaner needs more support, the reaper doesn’t imo.

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Posted by: Ayleid.9416

Ayleid.9416

The core necromaner needs more support, the reaper doesn’t imo.

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Posted by: Darwec.3784

Darwec.3784

Fixing death magic, blood magic, and some of the less frequently used utilities would be a much better way to give necros support. For example, I rarely use Corrosive Poison Cloud, Epedemic, Plague Signet, Spectral grasp, Summon Blood fiend, or signet of undeath. As for the shouts, the report sent was supposed to an include a tidbit about the shouts being lack luster. So lets wait and see what they come up with for those.

Ideally, A power dps necro should look like spite/soul reaping/reaper or spite/soul reaping/curses if they dont have the expansion. A support necro should be taking blood and or death magic instead. Things of that nature. Not every necro build should find their best traits in one to three lines.