Why would u even bother with a regular necro? The GS and reaper shroud just mows down everything….Its fantastic fun and I much prefer it over the revenant which is gimmicky and requires too much micro management.
For the first time as a necro, I actually feel POWERFULL
you really need to play the other specializations because you’re seriously mistaken. I took a tempest and wrecked critters in less than 50% of the time it took to take them don as a Reaper. Worst yet, i did this as a glass canon so you’re not seeing the whole picture here.
Vini, Vidi, Vici, Viridis…I came, I saw, I conquered…I got a green??
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
Vini, Vidi, Vici, Viridis…I came, I saw, I conquered…I got a green??
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
Why are you so angry? We LIKE it..is that ok with you?
you really need to play the other specializations because you’re seriously mistaken. I took a tempest and wrecked critters in less than 50% of the time it took to take them don as a Reaper. Worst yet, i did this as a glass canon so you’re not seeing the whole picture here.
Ok, so let us rephrase it:
reaper is an awesome version of necromancer. Super fun and can kill things faster in PvE.
tempest is a worse version of elementalists according to them (I haven’t tried), which ranks it still above reaper in efficiency because eles are OP.
I’m not feeling it, I kept getting downed by humanoid Mordrem in the intro PS, there was this cave with killer mushrooms that kept making me their plaything, the only places I seemed to do well in were the Amber Fort PS instance, and the Faren chain with eventual Wyrven fight. I’m wondering if it was the gear they gave me Celestial, or the utilities which were wells instead of the shouts.
This sucks because I really wanted to like this as it seemed like a throw back to WoWs Deathknight when it was new.
you really need to play the other specializations because you’re seriously mistaken. I took a tempest and wrecked critters in less than 50% of the time it took to take them don as a Reaper. Worst yet, i did this as a glass canon so you’re not seeing the whole picture here.
youre doing something terribly wrong,. I maintain atleast 15 stacks of might, and I hit bewtween 4-17k. Its so far the fastest killing of all the elite specs. Rev might do more damage, but not against more than 2-3 enemies in pve. not even close.
I’m not feeling it, I kept getting downed by humanoid Mordrem in the intro PS, there was this cave with killer mushrooms that kept making me their plaything, the only places I seemed to do well in were the Amber Fort PS instance, and the Faren chain with eventual Wyrven fight. I’m wondering if it was the gear they gave me Celestial, or the utilities which were wells instead of the shouts.
This sucks because I really wanted to like this as it seemed like a throw back to WoWs Deathknight when it was new.
Reaper, especially if using GS is really not ideal for fighting single enemies. Necro with dagger (or axe for that matter) still has its niche there.
I’m not feeling it, I kept getting downed by humanoid Mordrem in the intro PS, there was this cave with killer mushrooms that kept making me their plaything, the only places I seemed to do well in were the Amber Fort PS instance, and the Faren chain with eventual Wyrven fight. I’m wondering if it was the gear they gave me Celestial, or the utilities which were wells instead of the shouts.
This sucks because I really wanted to like this as it seemed like a throw back to WoWs Deathknight when it was new.
Funny, I had a field day with the PS instance. I’ll have to try the other things when I get back. Between the shouts and the group LF generation on GS, I find I can stay in RS a good long time, pop out, gravedigger down, when they get to 25% finish em off if I need LF or pop in RS and kill em to get the ( second CD reduction on my skills.
A knight in shining armor is a man who never had his metal truly tested.
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
What is wrong with you?
Yeah, Reaper actually is quite survivable. Running around Solo in Verdant Brink? No problem. The only thing that has given me trouble is a smokescale or two. Those guys are evil. But I can fight a couple archer frogs and a Nuhoc (Nuhoc and at least one archer as veterans) and come out alive, so long as I don’t mess up. Does it take a little while? Yes. But I don’t die (Soldier Reaper)
Have been playing in PvP mostly and in Conquest Reaper is “ok”. Nothing special but you can deal massive blows in team fights like in Kyhlo mid. CttB->Executioner’s Strike and then just swirl everyone down. 1v1 or 1v2 on point is kinda sad tbh. But in Stronghold this is just sweet. Like this sweet. http://i.imgur.com/MKpfvRU.png?1
I’d like to see something better done with the shouts, but the reaper form and greatsword is a ton of fun. Played a few builds and just loved all of it.
pvp:
untill the condi damage will be so powerfull, losing the curse specialization is a suicide, and u’ll always be forced to build tons of condi clear
without the spite spec ur damage in pratically every build except maybe for MM is needed to be a decent threat for ur foes
soul reaping is still needed if you wanna focus on the shroud or, at least, don t wanna be a full tank
Reapers Might>Sphoned Power>You are all weaklings..constant 25 might..constant,always and forever…it drops to 10 sometimes in pvp..but in PvE its always 25.
Unyielding Blast>Bitter Chill>Decimate Defenses>Death Perception>Reapers Onslaught..whats that?..oh i need no precision at all….I guess ill full Valkyrie for vit.
Reapers shroud recharges 7 seconds..its full within 3 in PvE especially.
No one can beat dat damage,cancer icebow users will finally die.
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
What is wrong with you?
Yeah, Reaper actually is quite survivable. Running around Solo in Verdant Brink? No problem. The only thing that has given me trouble is a smokescale or two. Those guys are evil. But I can fight a couple archer frogs and a Nuhoc (Nuhoc and at least one archer as veterans) and come out alive, so long as I don’t mess up. Does it take a little while? Yes. But I don’t die (Soldier Reaper)
So try Soldiers than, because my Reaper with the Celestial Gear is getting steam rolled some times.
Only been playing gw2 for a month or so now, and I have necro as my main…absolutely love it. I was a bit worried when I first read the forums…so much negativity, like everyone is an elitist jerk. But having let go of the idea that this would be like my previous mo, I realised there is much more to playing successfully as a necro, as a team. Think everyone needs to get a grip to be honest. I’ve never been kicked or slandered for playing necro, and fair quite well in pvp which is my main interest. Think sceptre and axe need more synergy with conditions but apart from that the necro in my opinion is amazing and unique. Reaper has just blown me away with its kitten wrecking ball feeling.
Spectral mastery needs to be baseline or we have to take soul reaping forever
Not spectral mastery, Vital Persistance needs to be baseline. It’s the most globally effective way to normalize Necro Life Force, and is one of the biggest hindrances on diversity.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
Spectral mastery needs to be baseline or we have to take soul reaping forever
Not spectral mastery, Vital Persistance needs to be baseline. It’s the most globally effective way to normalize Necro Life Force, and is one of the biggest hindrances on diversity.
Not spectral mastery, Vital Persistance needs to be baseline. It’s the most globally effective way to normalize Necro Life Force, and is one of the biggest hindrances on diversity.
Adding my support for this. Between that, the other Shroud buffs in Soul Reaping (which you want because RS is amazing), and the might/vuln stacking from Spite, it’s really hard to justify using anything other than Reaper/Soul Reaping/Spite – and I want to, because the synergy with RS2+Curses (Chilling Darkness+Path of Corruption) is spectacular.
Buffing Chilling Victory’s might duration to 10s or 15s would dramatically reduce the pressure to take Spite, and making Vital Persistence baseline would at least somewhat reduce the pressure to take Soul Reaping (although I’d probably still take it anyway because Unyielding Blast+Dhuumfire is still amazing if I’m going for a condi reaper …)
It is awesome. Love, love, love the shrouds. Shouts are a good alternative skills. My main issue is the lifeforce generation on the greatsword; if that was more on par with dagger, the specialization would be a slam dunk.
you really need to play the other specializations because you’re seriously mistaken. I took a tempest and wrecked critters in less than 50% of the time it took to take them don as a Reaper. Worst yet, i did this as a glass canon so you’re not seeing the whole picture here.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the tempest, that’s just the ele.
I agree it could use a bit more lf gen along with better sustain in fights. At range the LF pool may be sufficient but I find it just melts to quickly in melee. The gen on dagger is superior too, but even axe/focus will generate LF better than the GS due to the long cool downs and casting times.
I think they nailed it on the GS damage and the shouts though. My only concern now is chilling force. The might should be upped IMO to 15 seconds like the spite one that doesn’t even require you hit a chilled enemy and has no delay. This trait cannot compete with decimate defenses in it’s current state.
Edit also by making chilling force a good way to sustain might, you could reduce the dependence on spite.
Reaper and Berserker are the only elite specs that I’ve enjoyed so far.
Tempest – lackluster, new spec is ….more aoe? gg
Dragon Hunter – finally a ranged weapon, but traps? gg
Daredevil – terrible name, clunky as hell, better off not choosing a GM trait
Herald – rolllllllll through energy so fast
Chronomancer is also really good, Mesmer just isn’t my thing.
Long story short, all 3 of Mr. Gee’s class’s elite spec are top notch. I wish he would give the other guys some tips. coughkarlcough
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
Have to agree with the others. And I did try all the other elite specs and I still like the reaper a lot. And yeah, why are you so angry? People have a different opinion than you. It happens. No need to be angry.
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
Have to agree with the others. And I did try all the other elite specs and I still like the reaper a lot. And yeah, why are you so angry? People have a different opinion than you. It happens. No need to be angry.
There’s often a clash between “happy with how something feels/is” and “still not competitive”. I try to let people be happy, which is why I stayed out of this thread, but I’m just jumping in to explain. Often times when people bring up serious issues you get people posting things like “with my pug earlier, I did great!” which holds little value to progressive threads. What we have here is the opposite situation. x.X
Just don’t add fuel to the fire and keep it positive for people who are happy, there are about 100 progressive threads and more to come soon. :P
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
Reaper is fun, if you aren’t having fun on it you need to chill out a bit and come back when you’re ready to enjoy easily the best thing to happen to Necromancer so far. Now, Reaper isn’t perfectly balanced yet, it still has plenty of things that need to be mentioned, but at least for the first time Necromancer feels like it flows well with itself.
You people kill me. Try another class, then come back and tell me how awesome we are, totally delusional i swear. A Tempest can out damage you, a guardian can make you inept as far as survival? What the are you playing?
Have to agree with the others. And I did try all the other elite specs and I still like the reaper a lot. And yeah, why are you so angry? People have a different opinion than you. It happens. No need to be angry.
But someone has a different opinion from him. On the internet. Don’t you see why this is a huge problem?
Reaper is fun, if you aren’t having fun on it you need to chill out a bit and come back when you’re ready to enjoy easily the best thing to happen to Necromancer so far. Now, Reaper isn’t perfectly balanced yet, it still has plenty of things that need to be mentioned, but at least for the first time Necromancer feels like it flows well with itself.
perfectly stated.
not sure how a long time necro player wouldn’t enjoy playing this spec.
Chaos Organ (Ele), Pistol Opera (Thief), Modular Man (Eng)
MARA (EU) Gunnar’s Hold
Reaper is fun, if you aren’t having fun on it you need to chill out a bit and come back when you’re ready to enjoy easily the best thing to happen to Necromancer so far. Now, Reaper isn’t perfectly balanced yet, it still has plenty of things that need to be mentioned, but at least for the first time Necromancer feels like it flows well with itself.
So we should continue to be satisfied with being mediocre because we sucked for so long, sorry not buying in to that. Reaper has some good points, RS is great but once you exit that with GS you have very little to be excited about.
The GS skills are mediocre at best, 1 is good the rest are slow and unproductive. I am not satisfied because i know what’s been left on the table, at least I’m honest about it.
Vini, Vidi, Vici, Viridis…I came, I saw, I conquered…I got a green??
Reaper is fun, if you aren’t having fun on it you need to chill out a bit and come back when you’re ready to enjoy easily the best thing to happen to Necromancer so far. Now, Reaper isn’t perfectly balanced yet, it still has plenty of things that need to be mentioned, but at least for the first time Necromancer feels like it flows well with itself.
So we should continue to be satisfied with being mediocre because we sucked for so long, sorry not buying in to that. Reaper has some good points, RS is great but once you exit that with GS you have very little to be excited about.
The GS skills are mediocre at best, 1 is good the rest are slow and unproductive. I am not satisfied because i know what’s been left on the table, at least I’m honest about it.
Completely missed the point. I literally said there is still plenty to mention balance wise, but Reaper is fun. And GS is great, Gravedigger is a 25% higher damage backstab that whirls and resets, 4 is Well of Darkness on half the CD and way more effective. The skill actually has internal synergy, the first time we can honestly say that of one of our weapons.
Spectral mastery needs to be baseline or we have to take soul reaping forever
Not spectral mastery, Vital Persistance needs to be baseline. It’s the most globally effective way to normalize Necro Life Force, and is one of the biggest hindrances on diversity.
This needs to happen and necro will have so much new life breathed into it as a whole.
you really need to play the other specializations because you’re seriously mistaken. I took a tempest and wrecked critters in less than 50% of the time it took to take them don as a Reaper. Worst yet, i did this as a glass canon so you’re not seeing the whole picture here.
youre doing something terribly wrong,. I maintain atleast 15 stacks of might, and I hit bewtween 4-17k. Its so far the fastest killing of all the elite specs. Rev might do more damage, but not against more than 2-3 enemies in pve. not even close.
Reaper can insta get 25 might stack with spite line + might shout without any others additional way for get the boon.
I made a 19k gravedigger in pvp on ele with str rune and marauder so obvisouly pve dmg are far away with more vuln stacks and passiv traits from others class / banners / foods
Reaper is rly fun and powerful ppl always want more than it offer and thats sad cuz most of them talk without even know how necromancy works ^^
Ps (Test) : 75k Gravedigger on champ in VB – Burn phase
“Necromancer in Heart and Soul” ~ #8k Hours#Asura
-(EvE ~ EU)-
For now i’m pretty happy with reaper now. With vampirism runes, barbarian amulet and blood cachets i can really tank and do some nice dammage in shroud. I can easily be the first or second player in unranked pvp. For now i find reaper really powerful and fun to play.
19k??
really?
i reached 12k against a warrior.. he had 20-25 stacks of vuln and i had 20 more or less stacks of might.. of course i critted and i was valk..
he was marauder
19k??
really?
i reached 12k against a warrior.. he had 20-25 stacks of vuln and i had 20 more or less stacks of might.. of course i critted and i was valk..
he was marauder
Yea tested with a friend should have screened it if i knew i was going to post on forum
He was in zerker btw*
“Necromancer in Heart and Soul” ~ #8k Hours#Asura
-(EvE ~ EU)-
Not very experienced with specs on a Necro, but I really like Reaper. I laughed triumphantly defending a rally point solo against Mordrem and I arrived after most of the NPCs fainted. The damage and the way your attacks flow in the shroud are amazing, building up energy for shroud is easy, weakening enemies with lots of vulnerability and, in this case, some shouts really were effective against a mob you’re about to cull.
Reaper spec made me create a necro character in the base game, eagerly awaiting HoT. It’s like everything the necro needed. Still learning proper use of gravedigger, but the damage numbers popping up are just awesome.
To be honest, out of all the Elite’s, it is the only class that feels sufficiently different from the base class. Chrono, Tempest, Beserker etc, all feel just like a mild variation of their core classes. Reaper almost feels like a seperate class entirely from base necro and it feels a lot more powerful.
To be honest, out of all the Elite’s, it is the only class that feels sufficiently different from the base class. Chrono, Tempest, Beserker etc, all feel just like a mild variation of their core classes. Reaper almost feels like a seperate class entirely from base necro and it feels a lot more powerful.
It’s a kitten shame that they abandoned that “make it feel different from the base class” philosophy after making the Reaper.
Though Daredevil manages to feel pretty different, too. Not as different as Reaper is from base necro, but moreso than any of the other elites.
To be honest, out of all the Elite’s, it is the only class that feels sufficiently different from the base class. Chrono, Tempest, Beserker etc, all feel just like a mild variation of their core classes. Reaper almost feels like a seperate class entirely from base necro and it feels a lot more powerful.
It’s a kitten shame that they abandoned that “make it feel different from the base class” philosophy after making the Reaper.
Though Daredevil manages to feel pretty different, too. Not as different as Reaper is from base necro, but moreso than any of the other elites.
Yeah, that’s what really ties me to the Reaper, I must say. I can easily say “I’m not a Necromancer, I’m a Reaper” and not feel like I’m just being cute. I can’t say the same for many others. Maybe a little bit Dragon Hunter and Daredevil (which is more of a “fixed” acro, than anything). Tempest, Chronomancers and even sort of Berserker just sort of feel like more of the same. Herald… Heralds just the kitten gue that keeps Revenant together haha. I couldn’t imagine a Revenant NOT having Herald…
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
To be honest, out of all the Elite’s, it is the only class that feels sufficiently different from the base class. Chrono, Tempest, Beserker etc, all feel just like a mild variation of their core classes. Reaper almost feels like a seperate class entirely from base necro and it feels a lot more powerful.
It’s a kitten shame that they abandoned that “make it feel different from the base class” philosophy after making the Reaper.
Though Daredevil manages to feel pretty different, too. Not as different as Reaper is from base necro, but moreso than any of the other elites.
To me base Necro seems to be more suited for condition build and the Reaper more power based one. Though both can be traited to go either way. I think most of the base Necro issues are linked to conditions being somewhat unbalanced yet and PvE being not suitable for condition builds (or condition manipulation builds, I should say). Reaper “fixes” it by just mostly ignoring damaging conditions and giving us more direct damage. The idea is good. It’s just that the context of this idea is bad. The game does not support the original vision of the Necro.
We need team support not damage, that’s always been our main problem for teams, we bring nothing for the group at all, vampiric aura is a worse version of a standard Virtue of Resolve, the Healing in downed state/teleport downed players is only usefull if you’re not being attack and very bad when some one is ressing the person you port to yourself.
So Reaper while fun still lacks what necromancers always lacked, Team support.
