Guild Wars 2

The Kin plays a power necro, though is currently working towards getting some specific gear for a bit more survival. As it stands, The Kin’s necro has 47% crit 3000 power and roughly 20k hp or so and 81 crit damage.

The weapons of choice are Dagger / Focus and Axe / Focus, occasionally with a staff or such instead of axe. In WvW however, thieves have been stupidly frustrating. The Kin is entirely uncertain how to deal with heartseeker spammers and often times find the life force chewed through in a matter of seconds and entirely unable to kite or run from the HS spam. Any tips on how to deal with this, guys?

The skills so far have been hard to choose. Some are good in certain instances, some in others but The Kin is starting to lean towards using 2 minions with 2 utility skills (Flesh golem + bone fiend) and maybe two other skills, but have no idea on what. Consume conditions is a must, in The Kin’s opinion.

Any tips are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

You will probably have to eat about one heartseeker before you can counter them, that’s generally how it goes. When they start their heartseeker train they wont stop till you die. What I did was equip runes of hydromancy, and as soon as I see them I start crippling/chilling them till they move at a snail’s pace. When they heartseeker to gain ground I start dodge rolling and then they either run or I finish them off. Usually anyway.

Pistol Whip thieves are another story, at least ones specced to kill you before the stun ends. I have no idea to counter them except survive their initial nonsense. I have 2800 armor, 23k hp, and I still get instagibbed by them sometimes.

So what does pistol whip look like? A lot of thief skills look the same..Perhaps The Kin should play a thief for a while to recognize the looks of some of the skills..

It’s exactly what you’d imagine, a backhand type thing. It’s kind of slow without haste but when they pop it with haste its practically impossible to not be hit by it.

Pistol Whip looks like them backhanding, then a bunch of sword slashes.

What is your toughness and armor? Your stats makes me think you’re built kind of like glass. I find that having armor is one of the more reliable ways to counter fat direct burst. Also, since you’re running direct damage, have you considered using Wells?

Well of Darkness properly used can go a long way in mitigating damage and extending life span. If you pick up Chilling Darkness it’s also quite a potent soft control (Chill + Blind!) Well of Suffering also should synergize well with your set up as it does both direct damage and build heavy stacks of vulnerability.

Lastly, if they’re the type of thieves that continuously stealth, they’re trying to take advantage of the fact that your game does not render them out of stealth as fast as they do. Keep mobile and remember to have a stun break ready. Dropping a fear mark on yourself or going into DS + Fear (you can still do this while stunned or kd’d) gives you a little breathing room too.

I hate the op, I think you’re a kitten and I don’t even know you.

People who refer to themselves in the 3rd person should all die irl.

the Kin need madical help as he speak of himself in third person , but nvm that.
i use 10.0.0.30.30 build ,duble dager + staff, utility= CC,WoS,WoS,spectral walk, golem , valkyrie gear+ruby jewelery in WvW ….& im having a blast

& Aga 4 your statement you rly rly need medical help

What necro only has 20K health? I can’t go into pvp without 26-30K health, too squishy for my liking even with 1700+ toughness/2300+ armor.

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Lastly, if they’re the type of thieves that continuously stealth, they’re trying to take advantage of the fact that your game does not render them out of stealth as fast as they do.

This is the issue I have with just about every single thief I encounter now, that and pistol whippers.

making sure you have option to have always enemy names on , that helps at least bit for the rendering problem as name usually pops the moment thief comes out of invisibility.

The kin needs to use death shroud properly.

Thieves’ heartseeker hits for like what? 2k? I have about 19k hp and 2k toughness. Rabid gem with undead runed armor. I went 30 traits in toughness. With DS you should win against thieves every time… unless they use thieves guild then it gets trickey. If they spam heartseeker when they see you(assuming you have full HP) they are idiots. Good thieves use C&D followed by backstab.

They can stealth for what? max 4 seconds with a 2 second revealed debuff.(they can stealth for longer with that stealth circle so just jump out of it and aoe the circle.) I spam traps by me and chill them + fear them then dot them up. They are so squishy. If you don’t have DS for that second fear and chill, you will have a tougher time with a good thief.

I think necros are a great counter class to thieves. We can have high armor and high hp pools… with DOTS thieves are screwed. They really don’t have a great mechanism to remove conditions. A crippled and chilled thief = free kill.

How to counter pistol whip thieves; spectral walk or spectral armor. Once their haste buff runs out PW thieves are laughably useless. Heartseeker baddies can be dealt with through well timed dodges and either the warhorn #4 skill, spectral grab, flesh golem charge or dagger #3 skill. So far only thief i havnt figured out how to deal with is backstab thieves.