Guild Wars 2

So to start off, I am definitely a lurker, not so much a poster.

I started this game with ele as my main. I got sick of how squish it was, and decided to roll a necro. And then I fell in love. Since then, my necro has been my main, and all the other classes don’t seem to be as fun.

After the recent patches, I have the utmost respect for the people who have stuck with this class for as long as they have. Honestly.

Just look at the patches recently. We have been fighting bugged and crippled since the start.

It took around 7 threads, placed in different forum areas to finally get a dev response related to our downed health being significantly lower. But even before it was addressed and fixed, we fought on. Playing the class, fighting as hard as we could with it. And to the people that didn’t give up on the downed health bug, your persistence is welcomed.

And then, recently, we have been told that our main and ONLY defense, Death Shroud, was not working at full capacity. That our potential was reduced by 1/3rd. And yet, we were still here, still fighting, still going strong.

So we have been fighting and playing with a crippled class, a flawed class, and yet we persevered.

So much respect to all who have stuck with the class, who have helped the necromancer community as a whole, all the respect in the world for you all.

There’s also a long way to go with necro bugs/frustrations.
Altho they promised more attrition last few patch’s, they are now saying no. Due to tPvP Tornys… It’d be nice to get some PvE love.
It’d be really nice if they made us feel more like necro’s than affliction warlocs. (Vamp/Minions)

Let’s hope they don’t nurf our health pool/non-condition damage to ‘balance’ dhuurmfire!

Thank you.

Your’s is not the first such post of this nature. I’ve read other posts where a similar sentiment is expressed; usually in the form of surprise that necros do as well as they do given all of our handicaps and bugs.

It is these posts that the devs should be reading most closely. It’s easy to dismiss a post from a dedicated necro as being biased in favor of the profession. When you have a player switch to necro from another profession and proclaim shock, on the one hand, at how F-ed the class is by comparison to their previous class and admiration, on the other hand, for the necro community’s perseverance in the face of adversity, THAT should be very telling to the devs.

Wake up, ArenaNet! Despite one of the most thoroughly documented player-created bug lists on the forum, you ignore us for months. You begin to come around and fix what’s broken but then add new stuff few wanted and most rejected, then turn right around and nerf one of our most fundamental defense mechanics over the whining of some tPvP-ers.

Do you even know what direction you want to take the necro in? Because right now it feels like its being designed by a committee working at cross purposes to one another and who don’t even play the class, relying instead on the biased views of non-necro tPvP-ers to guide your balancing decisions. That’s like letting the foxes design the chicken coop.

I welcome the challenges that force us to adapt and improve. There’s only so much “tough love” you can give a profession, though, before you are spawning ungodly OP monsters that you will never have any hope of balancing.

I’ve been a necro main since release, and it’s always been frustrating.

Even in light of the recent progress our class has made, people still dismiss us as nothing. It’s absolutely horrifying to try and find groups outside of my guild half of the time because people think necros are weak…which we’re not.

It could just be the quality of people I’m finding, but when we’re running TA and -I- end up being the only one alive over guards and warriors who claim they’re oh-so-powerful…uh…obviously I know what I’m doing and how to handle my own.

I dunno, I love this class to death and I have no intentions of changing, but it just reminds me of GW1 when assassins were released and everyone hated them because no one knew how to use them.

Yerffejy.6538:

So to start off, I am definitely a lurker, not so much a poster.

I started this game with ele as my main. I got sick of how squish it was, and decided to roll a necro. And then I fell in love. Since then, my necro has been my main, and all the other classes don’t seem to be as fun.

After the recent patches, I have the utmost respect for the people who have stuck with this class for as long as they have. Honestly.

Just look at the patches recently. We have been fighting bugged and crippled since the start.

It took around 7 threads, placed in different forum areas to finally get a dev response related to our downed health being significantly lower. But even before it was addressed and fixed, we fought on. Playing the class, fighting as hard as we could with it. And to the people that didn’t give up on the downed health bug, your persistence is welcomed.

And then, recently, we have been told that our main and ONLY defense, Death Shroud, was not working at full capacity. That our potential was reduced by 1/3rd. And yet, we were still here, still fighting, still going strong.

So we have been fighting and playing with a crippled class, a flawed class, and yet we persevered.

So much respect to all who have stuck with the class, who have helped the necromancer community as a whole, all the respect in the world for you all.

It is not crippled, or bugged, or unviable. Used to be super bugged. It never was unviable.

Currently Necromancer is now the strongest condition class in the game, and was severely overbuffed with the Dhuumfire patch.

Don’t listen to most of the whiners in the Necro forums. And I’d suggest you respect Elementalists and Warriors alot more. Especially, in PvP.

We’re almost half way man!

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

It is not crippled, or bugged, or unviable. Used to be super bugged. It never was unviable.

Currently Necromancer is now the strongest condition class in the game, and was severely overbuffed with the Dhuumfire patch.

Don’t listen to most of the whiners in the Necro forums. And I’d suggest you respect Elementalists and Warriors alot more. Especially, in PvP.

And this is the direction MY necro never wanted and we were told explicitly they’re not going in. After playing since beta and being TOLD by the devs we were to become the ULTIMATE ATTRITION class, something that appealed to me, we are given super buffed conditions instead?!.

This makes no sense whatsoever and in fact confuses the general population as to what we, as necros, are. It is of little wonder why many players don’t want us in a party because they like to know what WE can do. When it changes, even in the eyes of the devs between patches, it makes players shy away from us. Maybe the sPvP scene is all important to the devs at this point in time, but as a consumer that likes to enjoy his time in the game and has spent his money there, the confusion is getting to be to much… I guess if I want attrition I will have to dust off my guardian (I hear they get buffs all the time).

Sorry Tommy Knocker, but any complaints about Necromancer’s effectiveness in PvE are simply unfounded. You can beat most dungeons wagging a monkey on a stick as long as you know how to wag it properly.

The attrition aspect was supposed to come from strong vampirism capabilities, and the ability to shut down opponent’s damage/movement while slowly strangling them with conditions. The problem with that was, is during the closed beta, Necromancers were insanely strong, so they were nerfed so hard into the ground they needed a spade just to pee.

However, we were still viable predhuumfire patch, and now we’re blatantly overpowered.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

It is not crippled, or bugged, or unviable. Used to be super bugged. It never was unviable.

Currently Necromancer is now the strongest condition class in the game, and was severely overbuffed with the Dhuumfire patch.

Don’t listen to most of the whiners in the Necro forums. And I’d suggest you respect Elementalists and Warriors alot more. Especially, in PvP.

I definitely never said it wasn’t viable. I have had a ton of fun on my necro (Why I switched, and why it has stayed as my main)

And you completely missed my point. I was talking about how serious bugs (downed health, DS) have not really even slowed the necro community. Other classes would have flipped tables, and raised hell. Where we take it in stride, and go about making it a priority of the devs to fix it.

Imagine the hell if they randomly said, “Thieves, your stealth mechanic has been bugged since launch, your crit damage is 30% lower than it should be.”

Or Mesmers, " Oh. There was a bug preventing you from having a full set of clones. You really should have 4. Woops."

It would have blown up. What did the necromancers do? They went out and tested to see if the patch really did fix it.

And I feel for eles. I once had one for my main. xD Although I mainly feel for them in terms of build diversity and such.

The problem with necro in PvE is that PvE is all about efficiency. So while it may not be bad, people would prefer to take something more efficient. And that is something to look for.

We have always been viable, although I abandoned conditions long ago. (I detest them in this game)

Necromancer has been my main since GW1, and it still is today. But the stuff necromancer players have to deal with is absurd. There was so much broken with the class on launch, and there still is today. Our class gets nerfed into the ground over the crying of none-necro tPvP players (approximately but a small percentage of the entire player base), when it was already underpowered compared to all the other classes.

I’ve been in countless groups where often I was the last one standing, and it most definitely was not due to being OP or due to hanging back. My necro is always front and center. When the rest of the party is shooting Lupi from a distance, I’m right next to him, beating him into a pulp.

What I’m trying to get at is, necro-players have to overcompensate in order to do as well as we do in PVE… because technically all the other classes outshine us. Both our DPS and defense are rubbish, especially after this recent DS change. And minions are still broken. I suspect a lot of necromancers are really good players, because they’ve stuck with this broken class for so long.

I tip my horned hat at those brave servants of Grenth.

We’re the best.