Guild Wars 2

You just like punishment Xsorus it seems.

Also typical WvW players, never stop amazing me with their tactics.

Should we laugh or should we cry?

How did you get confusion on your target? Granted, I haven’t been playing my necro in … months, but I don’t recall necros being able to put confusion on targets.

Rhogall.4179:

How did you get confusion on your target? Granted, I haven’t been playing my necro in … months, but I don’t recall necros being able to put confusion on targets.

Pretty sure he transferred it.

Great video, I think Anet really needs to sort this out ASAP! That other MMO would not have taken a year to fix something as bad as this.

Xsorus.2507:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIEt3jQn55U

How are you keeping regeneration up so much?

Just awesome, Xsorus

Best part of this is even despite your braindead minions you still kicked kitten

So pro. Teach me, master.

I’m just going to apologize for the people you fought in my server and leave it at that.

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

this is the best necro vid ever

Rhogall.4179:

How did you get confusion on your target? Granted, I haven’t been playing my necro in … months, but I don’t recall necros being able to put confusion on targets.

Transferred it, Whenever I was playing with staff and was fighting mesmer’s I’d try and transfer the confusion over to them.

Most Mesmer’s though would just run away with stealth though once I got them low.

Cempa.5619:

Xsorus.2507:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIEt3jQn55U

How are you keeping regeneration up so much?

Staff gives regen, 5 points in blood magic gives it, and Focus gives it.

You’re actually able to keep regen up a lot on a Necro, which is why I was asking about Cleric Armor the other day.

PinCushion.7390:

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

My personal favorite part is me trying to use my Bone Fiends Explosion, and it not landing most of the time because they’re not actually near the target.

Thing is I want to use it as much as possible cause they almost instantly die anyway.

Xsorus.2507:

PinCushion.7390:

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

My personal favorite part is me trying to use my Bone Fiends Explosion, and it not landing most of the time because they’re not actually near the target.

Thing is I want to use it as much as possible cause they almost instantly die anyway.

I didn’t notice this most of the time until I traited Death Nova. The fact that there’s 2 minions up makes it even harder because of how often one minion would be in melee, I’d hit the button, and it’d blow up the other minion that was hiding behind me for some reason.

PinCushion.7390:

Xsorus.2507:

PinCushion.7390:

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

My personal favorite part is me trying to use my Bone Fiends Explosion, and it not landing most of the time because they’re not actually near the target.

Thing is I want to use it as much as possible cause they almost instantly die anyway.

I didn’t notice this most of the time until I traited Death Nova. The fact that there’s 2 minions up makes it even harder because of how often one minion would be in melee, I’d hit the button, and it’d blow up the other minion that was hiding behind me for some reason.

I haven’t watched the video, but will take a look at it later. What I do in tournaments and wvwvw when playing with Minions is kite people into my Bone Minions before explosion.

Because of all the crappy pathing in WvWvW you see all sorts of funky things happening to the bone minions. I had one that blew up 10 feet behind me and the guy I was fighting was 200 feet in front of me.

It’s one of the reasons I dont’ ever use Minions in WvWvW. As for his use of immobilize the ability is easily avoided, blocked, or out of range.

Bas.7406:

PinCushion.7390:

Xsorus.2507:

PinCushion.7390:

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

My personal favorite part is me trying to use my Bone Fiends Explosion, and it not landing most of the time because they’re not actually near the target.

Thing is I want to use it as much as possible cause they almost instantly die anyway.

I didn’t notice this most of the time until I traited Death Nova. The fact that there’s 2 minions up makes it even harder because of how often one minion would be in melee, I’d hit the button, and it’d blow up the other minion that was hiding behind me for some reason.

I haven’t watched the video, but will take a look at it later. What I do in tournaments and wvwvw when playing with Minions is kite people into my Bone Minions before explosion.

Because of all the crappy pathing in WvWvW you see all sorts of funky things happening to the bone minions. I had one that blew up 10 feet behind me and the guy I was fighting was 200 feet in front of me.

It’s one of the reasons I dont’ ever use Minions in WvWvW. As for his use of immobilize the ability is easily avoided, blocked, or out of range.

Its quite possible in SPvP they work better, in World vs World though the way they work is just ug…

blows me away how bad it is.

Oh yea, Let me also comment on the Flesh Golem and the water issue…

That’s either a Major Design Issue or a Major Bug…. That should of been fixed in beta as well and never made it live…It certainly shouldn’t be an issue over 6 month’s later.

Xsorus.2507:

PinCushion.7390:

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

My personal favorite part is me trying to use my Bone Fiends Explosion, and it not landing most of the time because they’re not actually near the target.

Thing is I want to use it as much as possible cause they almost instantly die anyway.

Did you get an answer? As a ranger with a mix of cleric+soldier playing 0/0/30/10/30 with 3 passive regen and lots of regen up-time I like the idea of heavy power builds that have huge HPS.

I loved the video, well played. I am actually leveling up my necro and am still undecided on what I will spec once I hit 80. MM seems fun, but watching your pets just stand around a lot of the time looks extremely frustrating. I got a good laugh out of the text you added, especially “Oh look master.. Minotaurs!”

Cempa.5619:

Xsorus.2507:

PinCushion.7390:

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

My personal favorite part is me trying to use my Bone Fiends Explosion, and it not landing most of the time because they’re not actually near the target.

Thing is I want to use it as much as possible cause they almost instantly die anyway.

Did you get an answer? As a ranger with a mix of cleric+soldier playing 0/0/30/10/30 with 3 passive regen and lots of regen up-time I like the idea of heavy power builds that have huge HPS.

Not sure it’s been really tested a lot.

Clerics is the next set i’m working on besides the Rabid Gear set i’m going to get.

Cempa.5619:

Xsorus.2507:

PinCushion.7390:

You forgot to mention how often you used the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend. Rather how often you tried to use the Immobilize on your Bone Fiend, it went on Cooldown, and nothing happened.

My personal favorite part is me trying to use my Bone Fiends Explosion, and it not landing most of the time because they’re not actually near the target.

Thing is I want to use it as much as possible cause they almost instantly die anyway.

Did you get an answer? As a ranger with a mix of cleric+soldier playing 0/0/30/10/30 with 3 passive regen and lots of regen up-time I like the idea of heavy power builds that have huge HPS.

First Blood minor trait = Regen at 90% Health
Staff #2 = AoE Regen
Focus #4 = Single Target Vuln/Regen that bounces and stacks every time it bounces back to you, so it can be random how much it stacks

We can get a pretty high up-time on regen if we want to. The problem is that every time we enter DS we lose all healing. That can reduce the effectiveness of regen/siphon builds if your playstyle involves a lot of swapping into DS.

You shouldn’t dog on that Ele. That is a staff ele built for zergging, of course he is going to run away from you when you are built for minion brawling. He would be crazy not to run away. I would be amazed if even a superb ele could beat you in that build with a staff build. His only mistake was coming back.

Nice video, but I hate so much that the effectiveness of that build drops off drastically around incedental AOE, and I think the flesh golem attacked maybe 10 times in the entire 10 minute video.

The meta-game (if you don’t mind the overused word) in roaming in WvW now is PVT, and this build is very strong against low numbers in PVT gear. High regen and life steal from the minions is really only going to have problems with lots of burst, where you don’t have the opportunity to regenerate. I would venture a burst character that knew what he was doing (like a shatter mesmer or thief) would have a field day with you in this build.

Not a dig at the build or the player, as it was a good video, just a personal gripe about minions in WvW and the concept of attrition as defined by face-tanking.

To whoever asked/mentioned it, yes minions do seem to bug out more in WvW. No idea why, although it’s been theorized its due to the innate laginess and slower server response in WvW.

Rennoko.5731:

You shouldn’t dog on that Ele. That is a staff ele built for zergging, of course he is going to run away from you when you are built for minion brawling. He would be crazy not to run away. I would be amazed if even a superb ele could beat you in that build with a staff build. His only mistake was coming back.

Nice video, but I hate so much that the effectiveness of that build drops off drastically around incedental AOE, and I think the flesh golem attacked maybe 10 times in the entire 10 minute video.

The meta-game (if you don’t mind the overused word) in roaming in WvW now is PVT, and this build is very strong against low numbers in PVT gear. High regen and life steal from the minions is really only going to have problems with lots of burst, where you don’t have the opportunity to regenerate. I would venture a burst character that knew what he was doing (like a shatter mesmer or thief) would have a field day with you in this build.

Not a dig at the build or the player, as it was a good video, just a personal gripe about minions in WvW and the concept of attrition as defined by face-tanking.

This is 100 percent correct! Smart burst players gather the minions and two shot them. A really good thief will kite away the minions vanish move in close and shoot you down.

Rennoko.5731:

You shouldn’t dog on that Ele. That is a staff ele built for zergging, of course he is going to run away from you when you are built for minion brawling. He would be crazy not to run away. I would be amazed if even a superb ele could beat you in that build with a staff build. His only mistake was coming back.

Nice video, but I hate so much that the effectiveness of that build drops off drastically around incedental AOE, and I think the flesh golem attacked maybe 10 times in the entire 10 minute video.

The meta-game (if you don’t mind the overused word) in roaming in WvW now is PVT, and this build is very strong against low numbers in PVT gear. High regen and life steal from the minions is really only going to have problems with lots of burst, where you don’t have the opportunity to regenerate. I would venture a burst character that knew what he was doing (like a shatter mesmer or thief) would have a field day with you in this build.

Not a dig at the build or the player, as it was a good video, just a personal gripe about minions in WvW and the concept of attrition as defined by face-tanking.

1v1’s I didn’t have that much trouble with, Some Bunker builds were incredibly tough to fight though (Guardian for example) but this also was related to the fact the pets simply stop attacking..

Having Minions in a Minion Master build not doing anything is bloody stupid.

You need to post this in WvW forums, you might actually get a response. The necro downed state bug thread got a response in less then 2 hours when posted on the WvW forums while being ignored for 2-3 weeks and counting on the Necro forums.

@Swamurabi

They already responded about this like 4 month ago.

Yet they didn’t debug it yet. Maybe they think it’s not existing.

during that time, I was trying to push MM build really hard in WvW. I was roaming with it, and wanted to make a good build around it .

Yet patch after patch, there was no sign of any minion AI debug. I kept waiting, but I got tired. That was one of the reason why I stopped playing Necromancer.

That’s ridicoulous. It’s the first time I see that kind of bug for so long in a game without any kind of repair.

Anet should be ashamed.

Should I make a post about it in WvW ? :P

Devon Carver, Anet WvW Dev, has 2 replies today on the WvW forum. The April 30th patch is probably done, giving Devs the time to catch up on forum threads.

Post away, what harm could it do.

Holy crap! LOL if Anet doesn’t take note of how poor the AI is for the minions and make changes accordingly, then I will lose complete faith in them.

It’s utterly ridiculous what necros have gone through. The video was great Xsorus but the minions provided no help whatsoever. NONE!

Yeap, My flesh golem annoys me with out bad its AI is.

Same with Bone Minions or whatever those ones that blow up are called..They just aren’t near my target half the time.

Yeah they are useless in WvW, and mostly useless in pvp

funny video

Xsorus.2507:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIEt3jQn55U

What kind of gear do you use in those Vids? PVT?

Soldiers yea, Working on getting Clerics gear for the build.

Great video, props to you. I laughed equally at the intro music and the flesh golem running in place/staring at nothing…sadly most of these W3’rs are less intelligent than that golem.

If they only had a brain.

Great Video, fun to watch and proves that minion master builds work even without minions ^^