Scourge is a power Spec now?
the condition dmg is ridiculous… im seeing freaken 8k bleed ticks….. and thats just the bleed…. add the poisions + burn to it and BAM broken dmg every Second lol
to beat condi builds we would need to be able to do like 12k+ hit crits everysec with most of our abilities… nonstop 100% of the times..
that just simply wont gonna happen..
condi dmg needs a nerf
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or reaper needs to change to an ACTUAL POWER SPEC.
Most likely they are saving those nerfs for later upon release of PoF. If they’d done them all now, you’d have 99% of the necro player base on suicide watch.
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Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Reaper will be the Power based elite and the Reaper will be reworked to make it more Power friendly (mainly changing the Deathly Chill from spam bleed to inflict direct damage).
Scourge will be condition, but also Sopport. That mean that the condition dps of the necro will be nerfed. No more OP traited combofield (no more finish combo at all), no more Dhuumfire easy to use (Shades do something only when you active a Fx skill, then you’ll no more able to use it fast as when you AA with the Shroud), it’s main condition spam is Corrupt Boons into Torment and that make it really weak against PvE mobs, classes that use no to few boons and have to chose to corrupt boons or transform them into Torment+Cripple (a scourge will not be able to corrupt stability into fear or might into weakness to reduce the enemy damage while using his Punishment skills, for example).
Also Fx torment last for only 2 seconds and Utility torment last for 4 seconds (but boons to corrupt are needed to inflict torment).
Expecially in PvE, the Scourge condition DPS will be seriously Weak if compared to the actual Reaper.
it’s a pure support elite and not intended to inflict huge damage.
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Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Scourge will be the Power based elite
Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Scourge will be the Power based elite
This Condi-Elite is still better for a power build than Lich Form.
Pulsing Slow, Cripple, Corrupt, Might… all pretty helpful in a power build. Esp. Slow improves sustain in melee considering Power Scourge has to run Dagger for that purpose.
I think it’s even better than Chilled to the Bone in most scenarios.
Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Scourge will be the Power based elite
This Condi-Elite is still better for a power build than Lich Form.
Pulsing Slow, Cripple, Corrupt, Might… all pretty helpful in a power build. Esp. Slow improves sustain in melee considering Power Scourge has to run Dagger for that purpose.
I think it’s even better than Chilled to the Bone in most scenarios.
There is a difference between a Power based Skill and a skill that can be used for a Power build.
To say scourge will be a power based spec is laughable. Everything we know about it suggests it is a condi/support boon rip spec, specializing in dealing torment and burning.
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Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Scourge will be the Power based elite
This Condi-Elite is still better for a power build than Lich Form.
Pulsing Slow, Cripple, Corrupt, Might… all pretty helpful in a power build. Esp. Slow improves sustain in melee considering Power Scourge has to run Dagger for that purpose.
I think it’s even better than Chilled to the Bone in most scenarios.
There is a difference between a Power based Skill and a skill that can be used for a Power build.
You don’t get the point. Arguments are made on the basis of what skills we got from ANet. And if Ghastly Breach works better in a power build than all the other power elites it’s pretty nonsensical to say the skill is not suitable for a power build just because it applies conditions.
It’s clearly a hybrid elite skill that outperforms all existent power elite skills in many scenarios.
Reaper and Scourge are both designed for power and condi usage. There is no condi elite spec and power elite spec – there is just power creep.
Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Scourge will be the Power based elite
This Condi-Elite is still better for a power build than Lich Form.
Pulsing Slow, Cripple, Corrupt, Might… all pretty helpful in a power build. Esp. Slow improves sustain in melee considering Power Scourge has to run Dagger for that purpose.
I think it’s even better than Chilled to the Bone in most scenarios.
There is a difference between a Power based Skill and a skill that can be used for a Power build.
You don’t get the point. Arguments are made on the basis of what skills we got from ANet. And if Ghastly Breach works better in a power build than all the other power elites it’s pretty nonsensical to say the skill is not suitable for a power build just because it applies conditions.
It’s clearly a hybrid elite skill that outperforms all existent power elite skills in many scenarios.
Reaper and Scourge are both designed for power and condi usage. There is no condi elite spec and power elite spec – there is just power creep.
However you like!
If you want to be right with your own words then up to you.
For what we know for sure and it was stated just above… ANet stated the Scourge to be conditions + support based. Therefore the Elite skill should be… Ho well again However you like.
Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Scourge will be the Power based elite
To say scourge will be a power based spec is laughable. Everything we know about it suggests it is a condi/support boon rip spec, specializing in dealing torment and burning.
I write Scourge instead of Reaper, I’m sorry XD
Only a little mistake.
The scourge is mainly condition, everything of that elite scream “conditions!”
still if that condition spam is not so much if compared to the actual reaper.
But the elite, the F5 and the torch used at the same time will grant a huge condi spam, still if for few seconds
Actually the reaper is a hybrid elite, but with PoF the Scourge will be the Power based elite
To say scourge will be a power based spec is laughable. Everything we know about it suggests it is a condi/support boon rip spec, specializing in dealing torment and burning.
I write Scourge instead of Reaper, I’m sorry XD
Only a little mistake.The scourge is mainly condition, everything of that elite scream “conditions!”
still if that condition spam is not so much if compared to the actual reaper.
But the elite, the F5 and the torch used at the same time will grant a huge condi spam, still if for few seconds
Ah it all makes sense now ^^
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To say scourge will be a power based spec is laughable. Everything we know about it suggests it is a condi/support boon rip spec, specializing in dealing torment and burning.
Except for life force generation, which is pretty awful if you aren’t on the dagger.
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Imo, and it wont be popular with some, is that Necros should always skew toward conditions meaning the absolute best specs for Necro should always be condition based.
My builds a hybrid build, not only do I have bleeds, poisons, torment, and god knows whatever else eating away at you periodically, but you also have to deal with me hitting you for 3k+ crits…….its pretty cancer and the only 1v1s ive ever loss were to power thieves
Anything else is just RIP
Yes….even burn guards, he cant cleanse my condis, he cant keep condis on me cause I throw them back, and then when shroud comes its good bye
As of right now it works with both condi and pure power, I made it to plat with just pure power hitting 400k+ damage every match and sometimes even breaking 500k+
Its good for condi yes, but I wouldn’t dare say that it sucks as power either