Guild Wars 2

Based off leaked patch notes that may, or may not be real.

What would be hilarious is if when the real notes come out, they are nothing like the leaked notes.

I will have lost about 6 hours of my life

good thing guild wars has already stole 2000+ hours.

I’d prefer to think about possibilities for the future than sit on my hand and do nothing. I like to dream, even if but for a moment.

It’s all right. I’m loving reading the people whining about the functionality of a skill that doesn’t exist yet (and by my guess for the rest of the notes, won’t exist either).

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

It’s all right. I’m loving reading the people whining about the functionality of a skill that doesn’t exist yet (and by my guess for the rest of the notes, won’t exist either).

Reanimator sucks.

In all seriousness though, I find it beneficial to at least ponder the possibilities. Sadly, I haven’t really found any decent changes that I could make to my build based on these notes so it hasn’t helped me at all.

I really like theorycrafting so leaked/faked patch notes are fun.

galandor.1059:

What would be hilarious is if when the real notes come out, they are nothing like the leaked notes.

No one likes people who sit back and laugh when other people have failed or wasted time.

Really though, people have spent more time theorycrafting changes (and how those changes would affect gameplay) that were obviously not going to be implemented any time soon than people have spent theory crafting these changes that at least have a decent chance to be somewhat accurate.

Bhawb.7408:

Really though, people have spent more time theorycrafting changes (and how those changes would affect gameplay) that were obviously not going to be implemented any time soon than people have spent theory crafting these changes that at least have a decent chance to be somewhat accurate.

lol, you included…

Not saying I haven’t. Theorycrafting is fun, its hardly going to be a waste of time if the changes turn out different and whatever thinking I’ve done turns out useless; that is part of speculating.

The only thing that bugs me with these notes is that ANet has yet to call them fake…unless they are trolling us..ANet loves trolling..

To be honest, what reason does ANet have to comment on them at all? The notes aren’t from any location affiliated with them, so if the patch notes aren’t real, then it’s no skin off their backs. If they are real, ANet is probably tweaking things right now based on the response, so they still wouldn’t be 100% accurate. If they aren’t tweaking them and they are real, then why say anything? It’s not like the 25 is that far off.

It is obvious that the patch notes are not fully correct, because we know the name of the DS 5 skill, and it is not the same as the patch notes. So at the very least, we can assume those are old notes, from before they had finalized the name of the skill, meaning at best those are old, likely incomplete, patch notes.

And like Drarnor said, they have no reason to comment on them. This isn’t a huge leak, it doesn’t really break the game or anything. It is just an unplanned preview, really, so ANet can just do their thing, try to fix the leak, and then move on.

I Theorize Wells will become the new best 1v1 build, or fear, and MM will be driven out of even THAT category, so MM will be 100% useless in all aspects because they want minions to be expendable which means die in AOE in 4 seconds.

Even if they are real,it wont matter to me.I’ll still use my beast Tank build.

MM isn’t getting nerfed at all in this patch, they just aren’t getting directly buffed. Don’t play strict MMs either, my MM build is getting a really nice buff because of the other things, because full MM builds aren’t that great right now.

Bhawb.7408:

Not saying I haven’t. Theorycrafting is fun, its hardly going to be a waste of time if the changes turn out different and whatever thinking I’ve done turns out useless; that is part of speculating.

lol, nice backpedal.

bawb both chastises and defends his own theory crafting in the same thread.

classic bawb, never wrong is he? if you don’t believe me just ask him yourself…

Bhawb.7408:

MM isn’t getting nerfed at all in this patch, they just aren’t getting directly buffed. Don’t play strict MMs either, my MM build is getting a really nice buff because of the other things, because full MM builds aren’t that great right now.

My point is they’re indirectly getting nerfed because the reason they won’t buff them for team fights (which is what they need, not silly other buffs) is because they are “good at 1v1”, but with these changes, even that won’t be the best route for 1v1. Thus; if you run MM, you’d likely do just as good as better with another build as Necro. That’s what’s killing MM, not specific nerfs. The problem here is you’ve accepted “full mm builds aren’t that great right now”, they’re even worse after this because everything else goes up in tier. It is a problem when one of the most iconic builds for Necro is being shafted because of some strange idea that they’re too good in 1v1, when they wont even be the best for that afterward.

Without major changes to how MMs work, full MMs will never be viable at high levels. Blood Fiend will not work when someone can force your heal on CD at the start of a fight, and every time it comes up. As for the other minions, you can make them work in team fights just fine (not Shadow Fiend, he’s in a bad place right now), you just need to have less selfish traits and stat allocation than the standard 20/0/30/20/0 minion build with all minion traits does.