Guild Wars 2

Behold! The solution to some of the Necromancers problems!

The issue with being a DoT (Damage over time) class is that your damage can be removed, and in the case of the Necromancer, we have no way of countering the opponents counter. Everything a Necromancer does is damage over time – everything. So this is indeed an issue… but it has a clever solution.

This video explains DoT problems pretty well for the most part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Skgqsry_imM#t=3004s

This is a very serious suggestion and I’ve done quite a lot of research on current issues in the game and I believe this will solve a portion of those problems for PvE, PvP and WvW. I focused on Fear and Signets because the solutions I’ve come up with go hand-in-hand and a major Necromancer issue is their lackluster Fear abilities.

These solutions aren’t overpowered and will solve a lot of issues. You can use them Anet, really.

Anet’s really busy trying to figure out spectral walk. I doubt they have time for this.

Dibrom.6408:

Anet’s really busy trying to figure out spectral walk. I doubt they have time for this.

bahahahahaha

mate very very very good post with very nice ideas/feedback. +1000
i hope Anet reads it and suggest it to the necro developers

good post

6s potential fear on the warrior? Ummm, I like the fear concept but that potential is just absurd, the 3 second fears from warrior and thief should be lowered to 2 seconds if they use your idea imo. Also, the conditional might is a tad weak don’t you think? 2 stacks would be better because I doubt you’ll have more than 3 conditions on you in most fights.

Aside from that I love your ideas, especially the fear does damage and signet ones. I feel like having a utility fear option as well as letting both condition damage and power necros use the same trait is great.

I agree that the Thief’s stolen Fear is pretty overpowered as it is already. 3s AOE Fear every ~35 seconds? That’s just nuts. That skill should be nerfed to 1s IMO. It would still be on a faster cooldown than our Mark of Fear. Not sure why the Thief was given such a powerful ability(s) that just involves 1 click.

For Warriors I think it’s fair though. That shout of theirs already has an 80s cooldown, requires 3 adrenaline bars and they won’t be putting 10 conditions on you anyway. Chances are that their average Fear Me! would be 4 or 5 seconds which seems fair IMO for the requirements to do that.

Fear is also a removable condition which the majority don’t realize because it’s usually over by the time you even need to remove it lol.

I find Conditional Might would really fit into certain builds really well, without becoming a trait that outshines the other traits in that line. It competes with Spiteful Marks, Training of the Master and Chill of Death. Those traits all work with very niche builds (staff, minions, burst), as does Conditional Might (conditions, hybrid). So I don’t think it would be underwhelming if your build supports it.

Tried the Terror trait after the patch hoping for ninja buff. Still did 76 damage LOL.

Great ideas, all of them are well though out and well laid out. As they are, I wouldn’t even consider adding a signet for a utility. I’d love for signets to actually be a real contender for a slot or even to be able to make a build around it.

Right now, I would almost never consider getting rid of well of darkness for anything. As a dagger build, nothing is better for melee fights.

I still think that DS#3 should be an aoe fear, either PBAoE on the caster, PBAoE on the target, or a wave like underwater DS3

Love these ideas. You’ve done a good job of making these skills seem better and more fun, which is what I personally think the bad necro skills are plainly lacking in.

Signet effects could be so cool for necromancers…

i like the ideas OP but conditions are on the necro for such a short time (cos we transfer them to the enemy) that i dont think conditional might would have any impact. Tbh, if they doubled our fears’ duration i still would only use them as a last resort or to buy myself some time.

Why beat about the bush? Is there anything wrong with asking for a 3/4/5 sec fear with a 1 min cd?

Think about it- if ur launched/knocked back (unless ur using/have a staff) it has the same effect as fear, it even resets your cd’s and just think about how many launches that lots of classes have access to. Give us decent fear, is it too much to ask?

Levian.6742:

Great ideas, all of them are well though out and well laid out. As they are, I wouldn’t even consider adding a signet for a utility. I’d love for signets to actually be a real contender for a slot or even to be able to make a build around it.

Right now, I would almost never consider getting rid of well of darkness for anything. As a dagger build, nothing is better for melee fights.

I still think that DS#3 should be an aoe fear, either PBAoE on the caster, PBAoE on the target, or a wave like underwater DS3

Agreed with a wave of fear for DS #3. It’s clearly not overpowered under water so I don’t understand why we wouldn’t have an AOE above water.

Ruufio.1496:

Tried the Terror trait after the patch hoping for ninja buff. Still did 76 damage LOL.

Fear is a condition, if you run condition it would deal about 800~900 damage (talking about jewels on xPvP). Of course with 0 condition damage it doesn’t deal much damage. Anyway as far as I know it would deal at least 400 damage, with 0 condition damage.

In my opinion Terror IS a good trait, the problem is our Fears are a joke.

Arcades Saboth.5139:

Ruufio.1496:

Tried the Terror trait after the patch hoping for ninja buff. Still did 76 damage LOL.

Fear is a condition, if you run condition it would deal about 800~900 damage (talking about jewels on xPvP). Of course with 0 condition damage it doesn’t deal much damage. Anyway as far as I know it would deal at least 400 damage, with 0 condition damage.

In my opinion Terror IS a good trait, the problem is our Fears are a joke.

That 800-900 is if you put condition damage into everything and get a critical hit. About 400 to 650 is more realistic.

Actually I use both signet power and signet of the locust in my vampiric build which works pretty well.
Signet of the locust can heal you up to 10k if you use any amulet with + healing(on pvp)which is MORE than a second heal, plus it does a good 1-2k dmg, combining it with signet of power and plague signet(as my defensive utility) it all fits pretty well.

Unpredictability.4086:

Arcades Saboth.5139:

Ruufio.1496:

Tried the Terror trait after the patch hoping for ninja buff. Still did 76 damage LOL.

Fear is a condition, if you run condition it would deal about 800~900 damage (talking about jewels on xPvP). Of course with 0 condition damage it doesn’t deal much damage. Anyway as far as I know it would deal at least 400 damage, with 0 condition damage.

In my opinion Terror IS a good trait, the problem is our Fears are a joke.

That 800-900 is if you put condition damage into everything and get a critical hit. About 400 to 650 is more realistic.

Fear is a condition. Conditions don’t critical hit. Condition ignore toughness, so this is direct damage (almost: it’s mitigated by few things like Guardian’s I-don’t-know-what which decrease by 10% the damage received). Anyway 800 damage was in my wettest dreams: I tested it in the mist and review the formula. Fear deals level * 1.5 + 15% of your condition damage, this means it’s about sixty damage¹ with 200 Condition Damage (for having Terror you have 20 points in Curse). With about 1k Condition Damage you deal about 280 damage.
This is strange however, I killed many people with Fear when their health was low but not that low, I’m sure I saw that number but I must be drunk.

So yes, Terror isn’t so great however I still believe it’s our Fear that is a Joke then the trait itself.

¹: for some reason I can’t write “sixty” in numbers follow by “damage” because they are transmuted in mice by the forum filter.

Awesome ideas dude! :o