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… Amazing. Think we will get anything worth kitten?

Only if they get the stream up again.

This is so far wrongly entertaining, the boon generation is getting higher and higher I just want boon hate to match I don’t know what to expect anymore.

Ok so it did not crash only for me. I was just like holy crap on the engie, ranger and ele changes. Engie and eles are already top tier and will now remain there. Ranger got some real nice buffs. While we will…. Well I’m not that optimistic because it’s clear they love those classes

I’m thinking our class will be worse. So, def not optimistic.

Crashed on me, too.

Love the increased range other professions are getting.

Boon spam
Massive healing buffs
Lots of condition damage buffs, too.

Sadly the removal change literally killed boon corruption with the addition of rng to removal and the introduction of resistance. We can’t even make sure that when we land a boon removal the conditions that come with it are working.

Yeah other classes got HUGE buffs to damage and survivability, and we will most likely just get crap.

I am calling it now, we wil get some cruddy blood traits and they will call it done. I have no faith. If I’m proven wrong, I will print out this post and literally eat my words (paper version)

It seems to be the pause lol this is dark gold.

Some of the talk implied corruption and condition transfers will be pointless

Elementalists will now remove chill and cripple in an aoe just by dodging…

I don’t understand why they are spending so much effort on engis, which are already in a very good place and offer some of the most complex gameplay and seem do have invested nothing into rangers, which are basically non-existent in serious gameplay (along with necros).

I am cautiously optimistic. I am hoping they took the feedback we gave them from the last ready-up and did meaningful changes. I’m cautious about that because the last time we got (condition) buffs we got slammed with multiple nerfs.

As another person said necromancers are not balanced by what is fun for us, we are balanced by whats fun for other classes to play against.

Wish they’d hurry up and put another quarter in the meter.

Anchoku.8142:

Some of the talk implied corruption and condition transfers will be pointless

I know right? Most of the traits seem to apply it constantly so it’s pretty much pointless to try and remove the boons. And conditions also need to constantly be applied. So pretty much we have 2 dead skill types especially for PvP. Corruption and our kittenty Shouts. Pretty much leaves us with minions which are meh, and Wells and Spectral Skills which are actually kinda decent.

That’s the point, necros get inherently weaker while other classes get stronger. Engies had trouble with condi necros,,,’ not anymore because now they have a trait which converts conditions into boons every 15 seconds. Lol no skill Condi control. Don’t even have to press a freakin button and they clear 15 stacks of whatever and convert it into a kittening boon. Lol at anet.

We’re next \o/!!!

Edit: GG youtube will save us.

Sagat.3285:

We’re next \o/!!!

I blame this on you jinxing us.

Sagat.3285:

We’re next \o/!!!

Not anymore we’re not! They stopped the stream. Kitten my life…

Abissal.6975:

Sagat.3285:

We’re next \o/!!!

Not anymore we’re not! They stopped the stream. Kitten my life…

Now I feel bad man this is the worse unexpected joke ever.

Gryph.8237:

That’s the point, necros get inherently weaker while other classes get stronger. Engies had trouble with condi necros,,,’ not anymore because now they have a trait which converts conditions into boons every 15 seconds. Lol no skill Condi control. Don’t even have to press a freakin button and they clear 15 stacks of whatever and convert it into a kittening boon. Lol at anet.

Transmute has existed like that since launch. It’s not changing.

That is, every 15 seconds, the next condition that would be applied is instead converted into a boon.

I don’t think it converts any existing stacks, though.

quickly everyone! GRAB EVERY SiNGLE LUCKY CHARM YOU CAN FIND! Sacrifice all the people you can! Cross your fingers, toes, lungs, intestines, and pray to every single diety figure you can think of!

Necromancer mysteriously deleted from game!

Anchoku.8142:

Necromancer mysteriously deleted from game!

On the other hand, so were Thief, Mesmer, and Guardian.

No we wont get kitten. Look at elementalist buffs. Perma blind is death for all necros. Rampage 1 shotting people on a 2 minute cooldown? Going to get wrecked by that too.

Necro will still have kitten like shrouded removal haha. Lets remove that 1 condition. Lets have some on death minors. Lets have grandmaster death magic traits which are totally useless. Lets just randomly have 2 staff traits in different lines for no reason whatsoever.

None of this will change imo. The staff issue will kill build diversity and necro builds.

Sagat.3285:

Abissal.6975:

Sagat.3285:

We’re next \o/!!!

Not anymore we’re not! They stopped the stream. Kitten my life…

Now I feel bad man this is the worse unexpected joke ever.

You could not time this any better.

Lordrosicky.5813:

No we wont get kitten. Look at elementalist buffs. Perma blind is death for all necros. Rampage 1 shotting people on a 2 minute cooldown? Going to get wrecked by that too.

Necro will still have kitten like shrouded removal haha. Lets remove that 1 condition. Lets have some on death minors. Lets have grandmaster death magic traits which are totally useless. Lets just randomly have 2 staff traits in different lines for no reason whatsoever.

None of this will change imo. The staff issue will kill build diversity and necro builds.

Brother, you’re preaching to the choir. We are right there. Condi necro will die despite the change to condi dmg, at least in pvp.

Anchoku.8142:

Necromancer mysteriously deleted from game!

After looking at what the first few classes got. and my lack of confidence in ANet, this might be the best course of action.

Hope they at least post the notes.

From what we’ve seen:

- Chill converts to Resistance. That’s….disturbing. Thought that Taunt will,

-Boonrip order will be randomized,

-Shoutbow loses Warhorn Condition conversion, it’s changed to removal,

-So far, there’s A LOT of Burning flying aroud for mentioned professions.

-Warrior and Ranger get traits that apply Weakness to attackers when hit and Protection to you/Bleeding to foes on very short ICDs and with long durations. sigh.

-Balance Patch goes live 23rd July

My god, camelot unchained or crowfall here I come. Kickstarted both. I have stuck it out here 3 years and I’m a gem store hog so they have gotten their money’s worth. I’m a necro lover and if we get humped on this balance patch I’m out. Who cares right, im a loud mouth negative kitten , but I sure did want more for the class.

Rym.1469:

Hope they at least post the notes.

From what we’ve seen:

- Chill converts to Resistance. That’s….disturbing. Thought that Taunt will,

-Boonrip order will be randomized,

-Shoutbow loses Warhorn Condition conversion, it’s changed to removal,

-So far, there’s A LOT of Burning flying aroud for mentioned professions.

-Warrior and Ranger get traits that apply Weakness to attackers when hit and Protection to you/Bleeding to foes on very short ICDs and with long durations. sigh.

-Balance Patch goes live 23rd July

You also got to love warrior getting +100 precision every time they activate a signet , so that can stack all the way up to +500 precision, and it was for a pretty insane duration as well…

Gryph.8237:

Lordrosicky.5813:

No we wont get kitten. Look at elementalist buffs. Perma blind is death for all necros. Rampage 1 shotting people on a 2 minute cooldown? Going to get wrecked by that too.

Necro will still have kitten like shrouded removal haha. Lets remove that 1 condition. Lets have some on death minors. Lets have grandmaster death magic traits which are totally useless. Lets just randomly have 2 staff traits in different lines for no reason whatsoever.

None of this will change imo. The staff issue will kill build diversity and necro builds.

Brother, you’re preaching to the choir. We are right there. Condi necro will die despite the change to condi dmg, at least in pvp.

From a pvp perspective the thing to remember is we are very weak to certain things like CC and condi removal. This is because we, by design, have no mobility. And rely on conditions to control others mobility and kite them. The problem is this. It doesnt matter what we get. Blind will crush any staff based necromancer spec. So elementalist will farm us hard. Fresh air also farms us because more damage = more ownage. Warrior rampage owns us. Shout traits merged owns us. Really there is no way necro can become good.

Gryph.8237:

My god, camelot unchained or crowfall here I come. Kickstarted both. I have stuck it out here 3 years and I’m a gem store hog so they have gotten their money’s worth. I’m a necro lover and if we get humped on this balance patch I’m out. Who cares right, im a loud mouth negative kitten , but I sure did want more for the class.

Ive already locked in that I will reroll to revenant :P I think a ton of necros have too. It is the same play style but without all the useless flaws just because necro was good in beta vs people who were terrible.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Gryph.8237:

My god, camelot unchained or crowfall here I come. Kickstarted both. I have stuck it out here 3 years and I’m a gem store hog so they have gotten their money’s worth. I’m a necro lover and if we get humped on this balance patch I’m out. Who cares right, im a loud mouth negative kitten , but I sure did want more for the class.

Ive already locked in that I will reroll to revenant :P I think a ton of necros have too. It is the same play style but without all the useless flaws just because necro was good in beta vs people who were terrible.

Ha prob right or just play engie or ele. Eles already eat me if I run condi or power. I can out last them if they are build to counter me, unless I, as a condi build, get one who is counter to my power build, but most eles can counter both… Sigh. I just see our opportunities Shrinking while other classes seem to be expanding

Abissal.6975:

Rym.1469:

Hope they at least post the notes.

From what we’ve seen:

- Chill converts to Resistance. That’s….disturbing. Thought that Taunt will,

-Boonrip order will be randomized,

-Shoutbow loses Warhorn Condition conversion, it’s changed to removal,

-So far, there’s A LOT of Burning flying aroud for mentioned professions.

-Warrior and Ranger get traits that apply Weakness to attackers when hit and Protection to you/Bleeding to foes on very short ICDs and with long durations. sigh.

-Balance Patch goes live 23rd July

You also got to love warrior getting +100 precision every time they activate a signet , so that can stack all the way up to +500 precision, and it was for a pretty insane duration as well…

In case they run both this and some signet they activate on regular basis. Otherwise, we’re looking just at proc.

Not really concerned about this one.

Body Blow, however, looks incredibly strong.

Gryph.8237:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Gryph.8237:

My god, camelot unchained or crowfall here I come. Kickstarted both. I have stuck it out here 3 years and I’m a gem store hog so they have gotten their money’s worth. I’m a necro lover and if we get humped on this balance patch I’m out. Who cares right, im a loud mouth negative kitten , but I sure did want more for the class.

Ive already locked in that I will reroll to revenant :P I think a ton of necros have too. It is the same play style but without all the useless flaws just because necro was good in beta vs people who were terrible.

Ha prob right or just play engie or ele. Eles already eat me if I run condi or power. I can out last them if they are build to counter me, unless I, as a condi build, get one who is counter to my power build, but most eles can counter both… Sigh. I just see our opportunities Shrinking while other classes seem to be expanding

Yeh agreed. I cant stress how damaging splitting staff traits across different lines and in different traits just kills so many potential specs. Either way, I will give necro a shot after this patch. As a pvp player, probably the only thing which would make me uninstall the next day would be no celestial nerf. I am tired of fighting against people with a 37% stat advantage. If it isn’t nerfed I will be completely done and will uninstall the game

We already saw what HoT will bring to Necromancer. These balance changes seen so far today make me want to fear myself off a cliff.

So, will the twitch steam start up again or what? Down? Finished with their loved classes, no need to address the lower tier classes. Guardian, we know, is already getting huge changes, making it more powerful per the last stream, while we got nothing really.

Maybe they realized that the necro got hard boned and want to flip a trait around a bit so we feel we are getting attention and don’t notice it’s only a smoke screen to once again cover up our overwhelming flaws. How’s that for negative.

Gryph.8237:

So, will the twitch steam start up again or what? Down? Finished with their loved classes, no need to address the lower tier classes. Guardian, we know, is already getting huge changes, making it more powerful per the last stream, while we got nothing really.

Maybe they realized that the necro got hard boned and want to flip a trait around a bit so we feel we are getting attention and don’t notice it’s only a smoke screen to once again cover up our overwhelming flaws. How’s that for negative.

You sound like a fun guy.

The stream is done, they’ll be posting the full thing on youtube soon. I guess they weren’t planning on it taking as long as it would need to, on the first day of E3. Poorly planned, but I think a grand anti-necro conspiracy is a bit silly.

Twitch still broken for me and nothing new on YouTube, yet. Guessing the YouTube will get loaded after the video rec is complete…

… With a gap in it for Necromancer ;-)

Twitch itself crashed due to heavy loads from E3, nothing ANet could have done about it. After it was taking a while to try to fix it they decided to just (I assume) record it locally and upload to youtube.

In the meantime, worth a mention that Fallout 4 got pretty hefty reveal, same as new Need For Speed (first since Carbon that might actually be any good).

Bhawb.7408:

Twitch itself crashed due to heavy loads from E3, nothing ANet could have done about it. After it was taking a while to try to fix it they decided to just (I assume) record it locally and upload to youtube.

This is why if, and when, I do get excited enough to stream necro, I will be doing it on YouTube and not Twitch. I’m not holding my breath though with Arenanet’s track record on necro balance when stacked against not only the other classes, but the game mechanics as well.