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Posted by: Yannir.4132

Yannir.4132

I suggest making it like this:

Stable Soul
When you gain Stability, gain an extra stack. Gain Life Force when Stability is applied to you.
Stability. Lasts 2 secs.
Life Force: 1%
1 second internal cooldown.

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Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Sadly a terrible choice, since core Necro has only one trait and elite skills that grant Stability. It would be almost decent with Reaper Shroud 3, but that ICD means it only applies the extra stack on every other pulse.

Even on the transformations, the extra stack is awkward, since it doesn’t last until the next pulse. Plague you don’t really care about it anyway, since the 3 stacks are difficult to strip and, even when they are, you don’t care about most disables in that form, since it keeps ticking away anyway.

No, I do not count Well of Power.

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

Lahmia.2193

How about:
unknown new trait name
Whenever you corrupt or remove enemy stability you gain stability (no icd).
Or
Whenever you corrupt or remove a boon, you gain stability (with icd).

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

Why not stayin simple :

Tormentor’s comprehension : Whenever you corrupt a boon, you gain 1% life force 1 second ICD.

Keeping the idea of the trait and making it a fit for the forever LF starving condibuild that actually make sense.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: Sarrs.4831

Sarrs.4831

I’d just add “gain x% LF every y sec”. Probably 2%/3s.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

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You could have permanent pulsing foot in the grave and youll still die to focus fire.

Were in times of post HOT powercreepocalypse, i wrote a parody of what GS#2 were if it were revenant staff#5 to a whiner – and it actually sounds normaly playable.

(Make necro greatsword #2 ,
600 range
2s evade during duration
maybe some superspeed to chase easier in the evasive shadow form
add 10x pre dmg pulses so you cant blind/block the animation
let it steal 3x stacks of stabilty
add a condi clear on another GS skill
….)

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

Why not stayin simple :

Tormentor’s comprehension : Whenever you corrupt a boon, you gain 1% life force 1 second ICD.

Keeping the idea of the trait and making it a fit for the forever LF starving condibuild that actually make sense.

Thats not a good idea for a minor trait because not every necro build even has corruption skills/traits. Minor traits should always be more general.

Also i dont think it suits deathmagic at all which is supposed to be a more defensive minion orientated traitline. Boon hate is more a spite/curses thing.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

I suggest making it like this:

Stable Soul
When you gain Stability, gain an extra stack. Gain Life Force when Stability is applied to you.
Stability. Lasts 2 secs.
Life Force: 1%
1 second internal cooldown.

Thats a bad idea since deathmagic doesnt really offer any stability.

It would probably better to use protection instead (a boon you actually get from deathmagic).

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Posted by: Yannir.4132

Yannir.4132

I suggest making it like this:

Stable Soul
When you gain Stability, gain an extra stack. Gain Life Force when Stability is applied to you.
Stability. Lasts 2 secs.
Life Force: 1%
1 second internal cooldown.

Thats a bad idea since deathmagic doesnt really offer any stability.

It would probably better to use protection instead (a boon you actually get from deathmagic).

Yeah I was trying to swat 2 flies with one bat which probably, in retrospect, doesn’t convert too well into a death magic trait.

Yannir for males. (guard,thief,war,ele)
Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

Lahmia.2193

I suggest making it like this:

Stable Soul
When you gain Stability, gain an extra stack. Gain Life Force when Stability is applied to you.
Stability. Lasts 2 secs.
Life Force: 1%
1 second internal cooldown.

Thats a bad idea since deathmagic doesnt really offer any stability.

It would probably better to use protection instead (a boon you actually get from deathmagic).

Yeah I was trying to swat 2 flies with one bat which probably, in retrospect, doesn’t convert too well into a death magic trait.

The idea of making it give stability, upon doing something, is a good start though.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

Anchoku.8142

Add, “Each condition you apply to yourself generates 4% LF per second.”

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Posted by: MethaneGas.8357

MethaneGas.8357

When entering shroud, evade attacks for 0.5 – 1 seconds while dashing forwards a small distance. 10 sec icd. Boom.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

When entering shroud, evade attacks for 0.5 – 1 seconds while dashing forwards a small distance. 10 sec icd. Boom.

Drop the dash and the ICD and I’d be cool with that.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

Why not stayin simple :

Tormentor’s comprehension : Whenever you corrupt a boon, you gain 1% life force 1 second ICD.

Keeping the idea of the trait and making it a fit for the forever LF starving condibuild that actually make sense.

Thats not a good idea for a minor trait because not every necro build even has corruption skills/traits. Minor traits should always be more general.

Also i dont think it suits deathmagic at all which is supposed to be a more defensive minion orientated traitline. Boon hate is more a spite/curses thing.

Anyone can use a scepter and corrupt a boon every 3 attack. Everyone can take an axe and use skill#3.

The purpose of soul comprehension is personal sustain what I propose is exactly that except that it fit more condi spec than power spec since condi spec will take scepter no matter what.

Also… in death magic we do have a trait that’s called corruptor fervor which take advantage of us using condition on foes.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Why not stayin simple :

Tormentor’s comprehension : Whenever you corrupt a boon, you gain 1% life force 1 second ICD.

Keeping the idea of the trait and making it a fit for the forever LF starving condibuild that actually make sense.

Thats not a good idea for a minor trait because not every necro build even has corruption skills/traits. Minor traits should always be more general.

Also i dont think it suits deathmagic at all which is supposed to be a more defensive minion orientated traitline. Boon hate is more a spite/curses thing.

Anyone can use a scepter and corrupt a boon every 3 attack. Everyone can take an axe and use skill#3.

The purpose of soul comprehension is personal sustain what I propose is exactly that except that it fit more condi spec than power spec since condi spec will take scepter no matter what.

Also… in death magic we do have a trait that’s called corruptor fervor which take advantage of us using condition on foes.

Greatsword/Staff.

I know it’s not a good pair, but it is a weapon pair with 0 corruption ability on it. They recently changed some Guardian weapons so that every set had a Symbol for better synergy with Zeal.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

Why not stayin simple :

Tormentor’s comprehension : Whenever you corrupt a boon, you gain 1% life force 1 second ICD.

Keeping the idea of the trait and making it a fit for the forever LF starving condibuild that actually make sense.

Thats not a good idea for a minor trait because not every necro build even has corruption skills/traits. Minor traits should always be more general.

Also i dont think it suits deathmagic at all which is supposed to be a more defensive minion orientated traitline. Boon hate is more a spite/curses thing.

Anyone can use a scepter and corrupt a boon every 3 attack. Everyone can take an axe and use skill#3.

The purpose of soul comprehension is personal sustain what I propose is exactly that except that it fit more condi spec than power spec since condi spec will take scepter no matter what.

Also… in death magic we do have a trait that’s called corruptor fervor which take advantage of us using condition on foes.

There is a difference between conditions and boon corruption and unlike with conditions, boon corruption is not present in every necro build (also you can build a necro without any boon corruption). Hence it is a bad idea to make a minor trait dependend on boon corruption (like it was a bad idea to make it dependend on minions see the old reanimtor minor trait).

Also corrupters frevor is a terrible counterexample because first it isnt a minor trait and second it isnt dependend on booncorruption but conditions (which as i already said is in every necro build).

Infact if you had said conditions instead of boon corruption it would be fine for a minor.

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Posted by: Yannir.4132

Yannir.4132

Add, “Each condition you apply to yourself generates 4% LF per second.”

Yeah no. Plague Signet. Unholy Martyr.

If this applied only to Corruption skills this would be fine. But in that case, this is not the place to do it. Corruptions are based in the Curses traitline.

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Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

Anchoku.8142

Add, “Each condition you apply to yourself generates 4% LF per second.”

Yeah no. Plague Signet. Unholy Martyr.

If this applied only to Corruption skills this would be fine. But in that case, this is not the place to do it. Corruptions are based in the Curses traitline.

This suggestion was intended for corruption traits but also for plague signet, which can quickly scale out of control making a burst of LF for shroud in those situations a valuable moderator.

Unholy Martyr already consumes conditions so it would not count. One trait would take precedence.