Guild Wars 2

Necromancers aren’t designed for the current meta-game, change the meta-game or give Necromancers some sort of sign that you at least care for the class. A 2% life force increase for Ghastly Claws may seem a “buff” to you guys, but in the grand scheme of things, its really nothing. It seems that I can barely get Ghastly Claws off without dying. I understand that we are a class of attrition, i get that, but it doesn’t reflect with the rest of the classes and game.

Torment has just been slapped onto Thief’s and Warrior’s. Greater Marks is now not worth the 20 trait points, so that’s another useless trait. Mesmer’s have a great abundance of traits that are useful in different builds.

Is any of this tested? I’m slowly beginning to lose patience with these slapdash changes. Necromancers, and all classes for that matter, should be “viable” in every aspect of the game, yet i’m struggling to find a format of the game where we at least make some noise. I said that the Terror/Dhuumfire/Sig of Para was OP and needed to be nerfed to some extent. That’s been nerfed to the extent where it really isn’t viable anymore.

Was this meant to be a rant? No, but the constant suppression of the Necromancer leaves me between a rock and a hard place quite frankly.

I remember a skill in Guild Wars called Grenth’s Balance. Oh the irony!

Jansy.8463:

I remember a skill in Guild Wars called Grenth’s Balance. Oh the irony!

Ahem.

Necromancers can put out as much zerker damage as warriors. Source = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_TCamD4ew
Necromancers can also put out insane amounts of DoT with conditions. Or they can do both these things at the same time with builds like the Nemesis hybrid.

So we’ve established that as a raw DPS class, they are on par with the best in the game.

DPS isn’t your thing? They can also tank and heal almost as well as a guardian can, they can put out ridiculous amounts of CC with fear and torment.

As for “I can barely get Ghastly Claws off without dying” then it sounds like you’re probably terrible at the game, unless you’re talking about PVP in which case you should not be using axe in pvp. Necromancers are fine in pvp as it is, their ultimate skills lich form and plague are practically “I Win” buttons in almost any fight, corrupt boon is godlike, their ability to support in team fights with wells and marks is godlike. There are a lot of counters to these things, sure, but it all depends on how you use them and the skill of the players. It’s balanced.

That “I can barely get Ghastly Claws off without dying” was a sliiiiight exaggeration if you didn’t realize.

I will agree that Lich Form is great in PvP, Plague however isn’t so in my opinion. These elites you mentioned weren’t really a part of the recent nerf of the Necromancer, and because they are perfectly fine within the game, i didn’t mention them.

In terms of PvP, the recent Death Shroud nerf hit the Necromancer hard. Also, in terms of CC, Chill is far far superior to torment in my opinion because it gives the Necromancer a little mobility. Corrupt boon isn’t really godlike with boon priority and that reflects because not many Necromancer’s run it anymore.

“They can also tank and heal almost as well as a guardian can, they can put out ridiculous amounts of CC with fear and torment.” For a Necromancer to tank and heal they must sacrifice about 70-80% of there damage output, of which is pretty weak anyways.

All of what you said were great points and thank you for them. Hopefully it will improve my terrible gameplay.

Tobias.8632:

Necromancers can put out as much zerker damage as warriors. Source = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_TCamD4ew
Necromancers can also put out insane amounts of DoT with conditions. Or they can do both these things at the same time with builds like the Nemesis hybrid.

So we’ve established that as a raw DPS class, they are on par with the best in the game.

DPS isn’t your thing? They can also tank and heal almost as well as a guardian can, they can put out ridiculous amounts of CC with fear and torment.

As for “I can barely get Ghastly Claws off without dying” then it sounds like you’re probably terrible at the game, unless you’re talking about PVP in which case you should not be using axe in pvp. Necromancers are fine in pvp as it is, their ultimate skills lich form and plague are practically “I Win” buttons in almost any fight, corrupt boon is godlike, their ability to support in team fights with wells and marks is godlike. There are a lot of counters to these things, sure, but it all depends on how you use them and the skill of the players. It’s balanced.

Your entire post screams that you have no idea what it is that your talking about.
1. Good job linking to the same kitten video that proves what? Zerker mobs take extra damage? Whoopdidoo. Missed the part thakittens a channeled skill? It can be easily interupted? Thief can do 10k… in 1 hit… uninteruptible… and its not chanalled.
2. Tank? What… you tank w/o stability? Really… what exactly that you are tanking lowbies in wvw? Or squirrels? Good job. For every cupcake video of someone trashing lowbies theres a guardian sitting on a node with 10 lowbies that can’t even get past his passive regens.

Quit linking videos that prove absolutely nothing past someone bothered to film a perfect scenario.

HiSaZuL.2843:

Quit linking videos that prove absolutely nothing past someone bothered to film a perfect scenario.

This defines every single Necromancer build ever.

Jansy.8463:

HiSaZuL.2843:

Quit linking videos that prove absolutely nothing past someone bothered to film a perfect scenario.

This defines every single Necromancer build ever.

You made me lol irl.
props.

HiSaZuL.2843:

Your entire post screams that you have no idea what it is that your talking about.
1. Good job linking to the same kitten video that proves what? Zerker mobs take extra damage? Whoopdidoo. Missed the part thakittens a channeled skill? It can be easily interupted? Thief can do 10k… in 1 hit… uninteruptible… and its not chanalled.
2. Tank? What… you tank w/o stability? Really… what exactly that you are tanking lowbies in wvw? Or squirrels? Good job. For every cupcake video of someone trashing lowbies theres a guardian sitting on a node with 10 lowbies that can’t even get past his passive regens.

Quit linking videos that prove absolutely nothing past someone bothered to film a perfect scenario.

And your post screams that you lack basic english skills. I can’t even really tell what point you’re trying to make.

“Good job linking to the same kitten video that proves what?”

That necromancer can put out the same DPS as warrior.

“Zerker mobs take extra damage? Whoopdidoo. Missed the part thakittens”

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

“a channeled skill? It can be easily interupted?”

Since when has getting interrupted in pve been a problem?

“Thief can do 10k… in 1 hit… uninteruptible… and its not chanalled”
And necro can turn into a giant lich monster which is impossible to kill and does 4k damage every second with autoattack.

“what exactly that you are tanking lowbies in wvw”
I’m talking about in dunegons. You don’t build like that in pvp.

“guardian sitting on a node with 10 lowbies that can’t even get past his passive regens”
Oh hey, look, it’s corrupt boon. Suddenly the guardian is dead.

Tobias.8632:

And your post screams that you lack basic english skills. I can’t even really tell what point you’re trying to make.

“Good job linking to the same kitten video that proves what?”

That necromancer can put out the same DPS as warrior.

“Zerker mobs take extra damage? Whoopdidoo. Missed the part thakittens”

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? And you talk about grammar? Really… thats the first pathetic excuse you hear on internet when someone got no argument to make. Also fix your own grammar first cupcake.

“a channeled skill? It can be easily interupted?”

Since when has getting interrupted in pve been a problem?

“Thief can do 10k… in 1 hit… uninteruptible… and its not chanalled”
And necro can turn into a giant lich monster which is impossible to kill and does 4k damage every second with autoattack.

“what exactly that you are tanking lowbies in wvw”
I’m talking about in dunegons. You don’t build like that in pvp.

“guardian sitting on a node with 10 lowbies that can’t even get past his passive regens”
Oh hey, look, it’s corrupt boon. Suddenly the guardian is dead.

So… changes that mostly effect pvp and you talk pve. Then switch to pvp talk when convenient? Yeah… good job making your own argument invalid.

Impossible to kill lich? 4k every 1 second? What kind of coolaid have you been drinking?
Corrupt boon= dead guardian….. Whhaaaaat? Let me restate that… what? Considering the usual invisible kitten projectile that gets stopped by pebbles… anywhere outside face to face on flat surface… my own expirience is somewhere …. 9/10 fails. Against proper people that dont stand in the middle of graveyard. 10 tournaments in a row and not a single cb lands. And what exactly you are going to win? You can’t even convert 1 save yourself… and last i checked some of those shouts had smaller cooldown that this magical corupt boon that you have. And also… it does no damage so your whole grandious 1 cb = dead guardian… is fundamentally flawed.

I’d like to see you tank more then 3 hits in any dungeon from something other then non-veteran mobs… well? Go ahead… go on. Go make that video of you tanking anything that needs tanking. Go on… do it. Make a video yourself. Even if i left for few years… it wouldn’t appear most likely.

Keep on getting high on your own supply.