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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

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Soul Eater
Reduces recharge on Greatsword skills. (20%)
All attacks whilst wielding a Greatsword cause Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing)
Greatsword attack speed is increased by 15%.

Discuss.

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Posted by: Malchior.1928

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Not bad. /15char

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Posted by: Dead.5829

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The initial problem with that sort of lifesteal effect in beta was that it didn’t really work well with any ability other than Death Spiral. The weapon is all over the board in terms of how many hits its abilities deliver and in what time frames. If abilities stay as they are now, that lifesteal effect would need to look like the Revenants’, where it has an internal cooldown.

Attack speed would be fantastic.

The big question with Soul Eater, even buffed, is would you take it over Chilling Victory? Can the lifesteal give you enough healing, and the attack speed + cdr enough lifeforce that you aren’t reliant on Blighter’s Boon to stay alive in pvp?

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Posted by: Sinzaku.2980

Sinzaku.2980

Soul Eater
Reduces recharge on Greatsword skills. (20%)
All attacks whilst wielding a Greatsword cause Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing)
Greatsword attack speed is increased by 15%.

Discuss.

+1 Definitly a good idea

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Posted by: Brokensunday.4098

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Soul Eater
Reduces recharge on Greatsword skills. (20%)
All attacks whilst wielding a Greatsword cause Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing)
Greatsword attack speed is increased by 15%.

Discuss.

agree but life steal is bad it only work with dagger because you can spam 1 fast but on gs it need to be more to compensate the slow hits.

my idea would be increase the attack speed by 15%( like you say) and add a damage modifier 10% more dmage

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Posted by: Sinzaku.2980

Sinzaku.2980

Soul Eater
Reduces recharge on Greatsword skills. (20%)
All attacks whilst wielding a Greatsword cause Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing)
Greatsword attack speed is increased by 15%.

Discuss.

agree but life steal is bad it only work with dagger because you can spam 1 fast but on gs it need to be more to compensate the slow hits.

my idea would be increase the attack speed by 15%( like you say) and add a damage modifier 10% more dmage

Can make sense but i do prefer a life steal well scaled over a dmg modif tbh

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

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Why do we need more neglitcible useless lifesteal? We got blood magic for that once anet decides to combine and adjust all numbers into 1 solid thing

The secondary effect of shouts and GS trait is currently a regular abysmall lifesteal.

Ive always voted for shouts STEALING 1 boon, to not have another corrupt AND the whole up line of reaper traits is meant as tanky brawler. It works with blighters boon.
I would definetly put something boon related to gs to further fuel that theme.

Beside boonsteal, maybe each gs skill generating a specific bbon? Might stab fury prot swiftnes. On 1-5 for example all short 2s

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

Lahmia.2193

Why do we need more neglitcible useless lifesteal? We got blood magic for that once anet decides to combine and adjust all numbers into 1 solid thing

The secondary effect of shouts and GS trait is currently a regular abysmall lifesteal.

Ive always voted for shouts STEALING 1 boon, to not have another corrupt AND the whole up line of reaper traits is meant as tanky brawler. It works with blighters boon.
I would definetly put something boon related to gs to further fuel that theme.

Beside boonsteal, maybe each gs skill generating a specific bbon? Might stab fury prot swiftnes. On 1-5 for example all short 2s

Well you could change it like that. I was just thinking of keeping it similar to what it is now (as Anet intended) but with a much needed attack speed buff that everyone has been wanting for Greatsword. Also I’m a sucker for life stealing.
The life steal itself could be more valuable than you realise, if they make it scale right. The only reason why life stealing is pretty terrible (it pains me to say) is because of bad scaling.

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Posted by: Dignified Loser.7689

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I agree, an attack speed increase and, for the sake of the trait being called Soul Eater, some form of life steal is needed. It could be interesting; however, if the attack speed (and life steal as already suggested) worked for everything as long as a greatsword was in your hands. Also, though a general cooldown on greatsword skills would be nice, I would trade it for enhanced or altered greatsword abilities:

Soul Eater: While wielding a greatsword, you attack faster and steal health. Greatsword skills are enhanced.
-Life Siphon Damage: 65
-Life Siphon Heal: 50
-Attack Speed Increase: 10%
Chilling Scythe creates a frozen line in front of you, damaging and chilling enemies.
-Damage (2x): x
-Chill (1s)
-Number of Targets: 5
-Range: 600
-Radius: 150
-Pulses: 1s
-Duration: 2s
Or
“Greatsword Auto-Attack Chain Skills” each send a frozen arc/bolt towards your foes, damaging and chilling them. (Does not travel along the ground like Reaper’s Touch or Deathly Swarm)
-Damage: x
-Chill (0.5s)
-Number of Targets: 3
-Range: 750
-Radius: 150
Gravedigger steals health when it hits. (Stays the same)
-Life Siphon Damage: 130
-Life Siphon Heal: 271
Death Spiral teleports you toward your target.
-Range: 600
Nightfall poisons foes below the health threshold.
-1x poison (6s)
-Health Threshold: 50%
Grasping Darkness steals boons from each foe it strikes.
-Boons Stolen: 2

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Posted by: Mikau.6920

Mikau.6920

Soul Eater
Reduces recharge on Greatsword skills. (20%)
All attacks whilst wielding a Greatsword cause Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing)
Greatsword attack speed is increased by 15%.

Discuss.

Very interesting suggestion, right now this trait is useless compared with the other options. The Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing) wouldn’t be that bad if you consider that GS can hit 3~5 targets, even if is slow. But what really would shine is the CD reduction and 15% atk speed.

Also, the Life steal could trigger with any skill while GS is equiped, something like Zealous Blade trait of Guardian (would work on utilities).

Sorry for my english.

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Posted by: Sinzaku.2980

Sinzaku.2980

Why do we need more neglitcible useless lifesteal? We got blood magic for that once anet decides to combine and adjust all numbers into 1 solid thing

The secondary effect of shouts and GS trait is currently a regular abysmall lifesteal.

Ive always voted for shouts STEALING 1 boon, to not have another corrupt AND the whole up line of reaper traits is meant as tanky brawler. It works with blighters boon.
I would definetly put something boon related to gs to further fuel that theme.

Beside boonsteal, maybe each gs skill generating a specific bbon? Might stab fury prot swiftnes. On 1-5 for example all short 2s

Soul Eater
Reduces recharge on Greatsword skills. (20%)
All attacks whilst wielding a Greatsword cause Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing)
Greatsword attack speed is increased by 15%.

Discuss.

Very interesting suggestion, right now this trait is useless compared with the other options. The Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing) wouldn’t be that bad if you consider that GS can hit 3~5 targets, even if is slow. But what really would shine is the CD reduction and 15% atk speed.

Also, the Life steal could trigger with any skill while GS is equiped, something like Zealous Blade trait of Guardian (would work on utilities).

That was my point, this trait should stay a life steal thing but reworked proprely thats all cuz actualy, for anyone using this trait, its definitly not a good idea.

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

Lahmia.2193

Soul Eater
Reduces recharge on Greatsword skills. (20%)
All attacks whilst wielding a Greatsword cause Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing)
Greatsword attack speed is increased by 15%.

Discuss.

Very interesting suggestion, right now this trait is useless compared with the other options. The Life steal. (50 damage/40 healing) wouldn’t be that bad if you consider that GS can hit 3~5 targets, even if is slow. But what really would shine is the CD reduction and 15% atk speed.

Also, the Life steal could trigger with any skill while GS is equiped, something like Zealous Blade trait of Guardian (would work on utilities).

Indeed, even as a source of sustain it is totally inferior to Chilling Victory/Blighters Boon combo.
And yes the “all attacks” did refer to every attack made whilst wielding a greatsword, not just the greatsword attacks.

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