Guild Wars 2

It would be nice to be able to detonate the minions summoned from Mark of Horror in DS. Bone minions can already be detonated so I’m curious why the bone minions summoned by Mark of Horror can’t be detonated. I’m playing around with Necro builds and have found one that is really fun to play with but a focus of the build is on Death Nova.

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Its mostly because the minions summoned by mark of horror are infact jagged horror’s not bone minions (the same jagged horrors summoned by death nova). Also. Being able to nuke jagged horrors wouldpretty much gib anyone not a full health bunker. It would be….hilariously powerful.

Its funny I almost never see people use Mark of Horror when using Lich Form.

True. Thats more due to the limitation of the spell and jagged horrors themselves. For some reason Anet decided to put a cap not only on how many you can have at once (Making it iffy for MMs to try lich form for it because if htey already have x amount of jagged horrors out they might not get the full effect of the skill) but its also difficult to create a reliable force of jagged horrors OUTSIDE of lich form as well due to the really WIERD cooldown they have. (Once per death every x seconds….Why not just one per death? The only way that would ever be powerful is in WvW and then hey FINALLY a method for a minion necro to actually do something in wvw besides be laughed at and killed.

Combine that with there slow attack speed. Wierd hit boxes. And the fact that they suffer from the same AI bugs that the other minions do (occasionally standing still instead of engaging for the duration of a fight) makes mark of horror….unreliable.

Id rather see improvements made to jagged horrors to make the spell worth using. Either allowing us to have more of them to account for there low damage (since there only ever dangerous in a swarm anyway and if you LET a mm get 6+ jagged horrors over time you DESERVE to lose the fight) or making them into something the enemy will actually take into account instead of the current (oh wow I have a stack of bleed from something with negligible condi damage oh how scary.) If we could actually get a decent number of them rolling I could see them being used in conjunction with lich form to create a swarm effect with them. (I killed 6 enemies and have 6 jagged horrors with the first one about to despawn. I go into lich and pop out alot more and they create high bleed stacks on my target)

If they can’t improve jagged horrors however. Then yeah atm mark of horror servers little to no purpose in any aspect of the game. Jagged horrors just dont DO enough to be work counting on.

Yeah thats why I was suggesting to let us be able to detonate them. It can make them a bit more reliable. Well if they worked like bone minions with no cast time.

Yeah but due to there number they wouldn’t be able to work with death nova. And I don’t believe thats possible unless they change ALL jagged horrors to not proc death nova. Getting rid of practically hte only reason worth bringing them (poison aoe time bombs) Bone minions are strong enough and theres only two of htem. Imagine having 6-7 of htem going off all at once under someone. That would be stupidly op since its also an aoe. Doubt we could get away with that even on our elite (since our elite already has a very powerful single target/piercing attack.

Part of why I still hope they push to turn jagged horrors into a threat in some way :P thats just me though

the damage from death nova is roughly a 1000 that doesnt scale off of power or any stat that i could find so 5 death nova all at once is 5000 damage this wouldnt kill anyone from full hp.

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the damage from death nova is roughly a 1000 that doesnt scale off of power or any stat that i could find so 5 death nova all at once is 5000 damage this wouldnt kill anyone from full hp.

oh yeah I understand that it won’t kill someone with only the mark of horror but used with bone minions it can take out a good chunk of health. If your able to control the detonation of Mark of Horror you’ll have more control of when would be a good time to use that AOE. You would even be able to do a combo with Mark of Horror instead of now just hoping they die fast enough so you can set up a decent combo chain with bone minions and DS.

Also note Training of the Master trait makes each bone minion cause 2k damage for each detonation. But I’m not sure if it affects Mark of Horror jagged horrors explosion damage.

What zoso said is right. If the detonations worked in the same manner as bone minion detonations theyd be an EXTREMELY powerful aoe nuke. Thats kitten near unavoidable because the only telegraph is that the tiny buggers are humping your leg.

If it was ONLY the damage of death nova thered be no problem. But if they only just died for anyone that had death nova being able to explode them would be……pointless.

Theyd most likely have a similar detonation mechanic to bone minions. And 5 bone minions going off at once. is around 3k each (against an average defense oponent). Thats 15k aoe damage instantly to any target in the area. Assuming most people in combat are missing one or two thousand health at any given point. With many of htem being around 50-70% hp. its definetly a GIB scenario.

Tbh Id prefer if mark of horror spawned a unique form of minion accessible to only lich form. Like maybe a shadow self like hte one from liadri the concealing dark. Anyone caught in the spell had a shadow self instantly appear within 600 range and start tracking them. Dealing heavy damage if there alowed to make contact.