Guild Wars 2

All I have to say is….
This build is amazing. I ran it for a few hours and I came out as top player 80% of the time. I can’t think of how to explain this. I love necro alot, it’s really the only class I play here and I’ve been trying to find a worth while build. I’m using this one and I give all credit to the OP. thankyou for making PvP fun for necros again

Yup, why i recommended this build on another tread. its just not my play style is all. I did like it just is not feeling the love for the build is all.

question about your latest build…. no epidemic for instant ice age? i mean i understand the well of darkness but what about the other 2 wells? isnt there better utilities than them?
and given the crit rate of this build + main hand dagger why not slot sigil of ice? wouldnt that add more icing to the cake? (see what i did? :P)
and i was wondering if you could advice me on using the blood magic trait line instead of the soul reaping one, i was wondering about if its better to get dagger mastery, bloodthirst or vampiric precision?

Epidemic is really situational and ive tested it alot with spreading chill but i find i tend to be more effective just weapon swapping for AoE chilling then using Epidemic. I would never disagree with not using it, i just dont find it very effective for my play style.

The high critical hit rate is mainly for half decent damage and making sure weakness is on whoever your glued to 24/7. The build is more support through conditions then offensive. When it comes down to Sigil of Hydromancy vs Sigil of Ice ive always found the AoE chill to be on top (especially since you can weapon swap in Death Shroud)

At a push, Well of Suffering could be dropped. Darkness is a must and Corruption helps take down Guardians much quicker. I’ve always preferred triple well as it combos nicely with Dark Pact for a guaranteed Necro Bomb. Think of Suffering as my personal tech, if you find skills work better for you instead of that (i.e Epidemic) use em!

The Soul Reaping points is mainly for the additional tankiness it provides (plus free additional damage on critical hits) its my personal tech as im quite aggressive even when playing support. Instead of Death Magic, have you considered Blood Magic with the Ritual of Protection (IV) trait, healing on hits is just too weak on Necromancers unless you fully spec out for it and 3 seconds per well cast +10% boon duration would help alot more i believe.

@Kitai: +1 for the punnage! :p

This seems really fun! I was thinking today how I’m enjoying spamming my bleeds in PvE but finding it relatively useless in PvP.

However, I’m mainly a WvW player. Any chance of tweaking this for us WvW guys? I really think a build such as this could do wonders when everyone is so focused on AoEing the kitten door down.

steb.7048:

This seems really fun! I was thinking today how I’m enjoying spamming my bleeds in PvE but finding it relatively useless in PvP.

However, I’m mainly a WvW player. Any chance of tweaking this for us WvW guys? I really think a build such as this could do wonders when everyone is so focused on AoEing the kitten door down.

I think for WvW, you could focus on ranged wells and a staff build, for ranged aoe chills. I don’t think the weapon swap chill would be as useful for the ranged setup, and I’d probably take the chill on crit instead for such a build. Or using focus offhand and epidemic to spread them, plus well of darkness for blind/chill, plus spectral grasp for runners/defenders/overextending targets. Seems like you could build in a couple different directions, as long as you gear/trait for chill durations and chill.

For PvE/WvW you should be able to maintain the same Chilled Duration with 4x Runes of Ice (Or Sanctuary for Retaliation) and either 2x Lyssa or Mad King runes depending on whether you want Power or Precision, when running with a Rare Veggie Pizza.

Spite: 30% Generic Duration
Lyssa/Mad King: 10% Generic Duration
Ice: 20% Frozen Duration
Pizza: 40% Generic Duration

Total: 100% Chilled Duration, 80% General Duration

This is funny, I have been using a build in sPvP since the release almost exactly the same as this. It is very fun and i highly recommend anyone try it, just to get a taste of an alternate Necro play style.

anyone still using this build in sPvP? It looks pretty sweet and thinking of trying it, but wondering if it’s still viable. I love synergy in RPG’s and this looks like it has a lot what with the blind->chill and on-crit procs and such.

Also, I’m pretty new to PvP so I don’t think I have the skill/timing to run 2 main-hand daggers. Just seems a bit high risk for me at this stage. What would be a good swap for one of the daggers? Axe seems like the next logical choice, but would scepter work? Since you’re traited for curses and applying a lot of chills I wonder if feast of corruption couldn’t be useful as supplemental damage when you’re not daggering dudes.

Hey! I would have to redesign this build to factor in the skill and meta changes in sPvP but its certainly a build i advice alot on to people who PM me in-game.

Sheobix has covered this build as-well on his blog page if you need more information and ill get working on a v2.0 soon!

Great to hear! I played with something similar today, although I went for 30 in soul reaping, for 3 sec stability, and I changed utilities to WoD, SoU and Epidemic, just to try it out. Epidemic works greatly in team battles, but I saw there was a certain lack of burst damage without other wells, even though I had quite good critical damage. It would be great if you could update your current build!

Hi, new (very) to necro and i mainly wvwvw.. so i apologise for the newbie (maybe obvious) questions i am asking and hope you can help…

This buid looks great (looks fun and different to the cookie-cutter cond necros i have seen) but have a few questions/thinks i hope you can clear up..

1. Armour should be knights? (Power/prec/vit)? along wuth same type jewelry?
2. d/d+d/f – what would you suggest the sequence/combo i use? (Dagger 3, Dagger 5, DS freeze, wells) – to paralyse then weaken then wells to kill? How does the focus come into this?
And for Guardians – Focus5, dagger 4, DS4, well of darkness?

Sorry if the questions are obvious but just learning the class and the combo’s are confusing :-)

I have no idea of what works in WvWvW, as I only played tPvP, but I guess I can answer those 2 questions.

1. Yeah, you should be running knights gear(power, crit, vit), as your life force scales with amount of vitality. If you want to be a lot more bursty, but a lot more squishier, you can also run berserker gear, but judging from tPvP perspective, you would be much more valuable to your team if you could keep those chills up on enemy team, than dead, as you’d most probably get focused in the beginning of the fight. So, it’s up to you to decide what works for you.

2. Depends of what you are using as your elite. I’m using plague form, as those blinds now trigger the chill effect, so it can be invaluable in team fights. If you are going with it, you should count your enemy’s dodges, chill him and immobilize(chilling won’t be a problem I guess), and immediately after that use your wells on your target, along with dagger auto attack. If your target is already chilled, then just use immobilize, and again, drop those wells on him.

If you are using golem, then it will be quite a lot easier, but you won’t provide so much utility with your elite. Just charge, immobilize(your target should already be chilled), and drop wells, just like in previous combo.

Again, keep in mind that you should always count your enemy’s dodges, and that you should always watch for stability, blocks, or anything that can screw your combo for that matter.

You can also use DS fear to keep them in wells, even if you missed immobilize, but that requires some skill and good positioning to work. Still, fear and chill would work just fine, as they won’t be able to get out of wells, unless they use teleport of some kind(blink, shadow step, or something like that).

For guardian, just look for his boons. If he has something like stability, protection, retaliation or aegis, yeah, you should use focus 5(I’m not sure if aegis would still block focus 5, as I’ve seen some bugs with something similar before). Also, a lot of the times their condition removal will immediately remove immobilize, so keep that in mind. Well of darkness will keep him in place long enough, but it won’t remove his boons, so use it in combination with focus 5 and/or well of corruption.

Krilce.7864:

I’m using plague form, as those blinds now trigger the chill effect, so it can be invaluable in team fights.

Oh I didn’t know this, cool!
When did they fix it, if anyone knows?

Also, I gotta say,. while most things die really fast to this build I’m finding elementalists a lot of trouble.

Any update to this build?
I really want to use the build but lots of changes have been made to the game I am wondering which freeze build will work best for 1v1/small raids in wvwvw?