Guild Wars 2

I’m wandering, what kind of skill class will be Plague and Lich form?
They’re both Transformation skills but in the future patch that will change our traits ANet chose to convert the elite from Transformation into other things (only the type of skills, not effects).
For example, Rampage of the warrior will be a Physical skill amd Ranger’s rampage as one will probabily be a shout.
Then, what will be of our Elite skills?
Plague can become a Corruption skill and Lich can become a Spectral, but for corruption there not will be a trait, instead for spectrals there will be a trait like the actual one that reduce it’s cooldown by 20% and increase its duration by 50%, And with that trait our elite (lich or plague) will last for 50% more time, making it overpowered (Plague isn’t the best elite skill, but it’s good and a +50% of duration will make it a good choice to perma blind enemies in spvp or www).
And Lich Form with +50% of duration will really be OP.

What do you think?

Silv.9207:

for corruption there not will be a trait

Master of Corruption will be merged with Toxic Landing.

I’ve not noticed it. thx

Guessing Lich→Spectral, Plague→Corruption, also hoping they change how they work to not be transforms anymore but we’ll see on that.

Only problem with Plague becoming a corruption is that it doesn’t inflict a condition on yourself, which is literally the only thing the corruption skills have in common.

My expectation is that Plague will become a Well skill, since it pulses an effect in an AoE.

Well skills are all ground targeted stationary effects. It is much easier to throw a condition on Plague though.

Plague corruption
Lich spectral

No lich will be same as it was when it was 30s long – kill some1 within first 3x hits or die to focus fire in 5seconds.
Only thing it would make lich less kitable in 1v1s, but blowing it in 1v1s means youre already losing.

Captain Unusual.9163:

Only problem with Plague becoming a corruption is that it doesn’t inflict a condition on yourself, which is literally the only thing the corruption skills have in common.

My expectation is that Plague will become a Well skill, since it pulses an effect in an AoE.

Defiant Stance is the only stance with a cast time. Renewed Focus and Litany of Wrath have cast times, unlike every other meditation.

Just because a feature is common on a skill type does not make it mandatory for a skill to be of that type.

Captain Unusual.9163:

Only problem with Plague becoming a corruption is that it doesn’t inflict a condition on yourself, which is literally the only thing the corruption skills have in common.

My expectation is that Plague will become a Well skill, since it pulses an effect in an AoE.

Corruption spells have it incommon to all deal with conditions, plague could easily have a self influcted condition added to it or just be the exemption since it is the elite.
I am pretty sure plague will be corruption and lich spectrak, just fits the themes.

Lets not even suggest adding a self inflicting condition to plague please. Would rather not see another pointless nerf. CPC is already ruined because of that poor aspect of corruption skills.

Plz make plague a well erase that idea of corruption, about CPC it needs a hit proc as well as a change of the self inflicted weakness to make it comparable to WoS for condition builds. If Lich will no longer be a big spam #1 look at me green lantern Plague doesn’t have to be movable and can easily become a well, it won’t look like us becoming a plague just dropping one so well will fit better than corruption.

Silv.9207:

And Lich Form with +50% of duration will really be OP.

That brings it back up to 30 seconds, which it used to have. It wasn’t OP and was only changed because it was the only transform that lasted 30s and not 20s like every other transform.

Plague being a 20 second stationary effect is a massive nerf to its usefulness; if you want to make Plague worthless its a great way to do it though.

spoj.9672:

Lets not even suggest adding a self inflicting condition to plague please. Would rather not see another pointless nerf. CPC is already ruined because of that poor aspect of corruption skills.

5s of Slow, technically a corruption, actually does nothing.

Bhawb.7408:

Plague being a 20 second stationary effect is a massive nerf to its usefulness; if you want to make Plague worthless its a great way to do it though.

spoj.9672:

Lets not even suggest adding a self inflicting condition to plague please. Would rather not see another pointless nerf. CPC is already ruined because of that poor aspect of corruption skills.

5s of Slow, technically a corruption, actually does nothing.

For guardian new elite signet & shout(especially) I doubt they will leave let them at 180CD I don’t see why would they with necro especially with Plague and it’s duration the devs are not stupid. Corruptions didn’t reach the potential they expected.

Bhawb.7408:

Plague being a 20 second stationary effect is a massive nerf to its usefulness; if you want to make Plague worthless its a great way to do it though.

spoj.9672:

Lets not even suggest adding a self inflicting condition to plague please. Would rather not see another pointless nerf. CPC is already ruined because of that poor aspect of corruption skills.

5s of Slow, technically a corruption, actually does nothing.

That nerfs plagues use as a pseudo stunbreak. For example on lupi using plague for the grub on phase transition. I admit its minor. But i dont see why we need to nerf a skill just to justify its inclusion into a skill type.