Guild Wars 2

So after my previous post about my previous powermancer build (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Ultimate-powermancer/first#post4108417) i’ve gotten a lot of tips and put those in a new build.
Its quite the same but is better in my opinion.
I got some gameplay and put those in a new video, so i hope you guys enjoy it!

powermancer 2.0 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJv1v_aKH78&list=LLjTS3zYEP5VjEXg3U10e2AQ&feature=mh_lolz

If there is any more tips or advice, be sure to comment!

Things must seriously be different in whatever pvp matches you join, I didn’t see you get focused once. Everytime I come on screen of the other team they all immediately switch to me.

That gameplay is a shining example of why you should focus the necro rather than letting them 2 shot the other classes

Cool if it works for you. I prefer more sustained Power builds, but won’t say your doesn’t click or something, that wouldn’t be true.

I like the synergy in between Sigil of Strenght, Strenght Runes and Reaper’s Might also. It works really cool, especially in PvE.

But I’ll point out one thing:

Reaper’s Precision – There was a math done on this thing couple months or year ago which clearly showed off how little LF you can really get from that. It’s not really worth that much in PvP to be honest. It’s the best pick for PvE I believe in DS build, but won’t make that much difference against a player.

Consider Weakning Shroud instead, maybe

NeXeD.3042:

Things must seriously be different in whatever pvp matches you join, I didn’t see you get focused once. Everytime I come on screen of the other team they all immediately switch to me.

That gameplay is a shining example of why you should focus the necro rather than letting them 2 shot the other classes

Well thats what you gotta try to do, not get focused. Stay in the back spamming your skills, or grab a warrior without stability with spectral grab and do your combo. And another tip, use your lich form only when you’re not focused. If you got someone bashing you with their hammer and you have no DS/heal/defensive skills available you’re dead, even if you can do 5k dmg per auto attack.

Rym.1469:

Cool if it works for you. I prefer more sustained Power builds, but won’t say your doesn’t click or something, that wouldn’t be true.

I like the synergy in between Sigil of Strenght, Strenght Runes and Reaper’s Might also. It works really cool, especially in PvE.

But I’ll point out one thing:

Reaper’s Precision – There was a math done on this thing couple months or year ago which clearly showed off how little LF you can really get from that. It’s not really worth that much in PvP to be honest. It’s the best pick for PvE I believe in DS build, but won’t make that much difference against a player.

Consider Weakning Shroud instead, maybe

1. You mean sustained power build like with more toughness and defensive skills?
2. You’re right, their synergy is superb. I can get 20 stacks of might just by staff/LB.
3. Could you tag that post/topic? I have almost 100% crit chance in DS so as I see it it’s a 33% chance to get 1% LF, and with skills like life transfer, tainted schakles and DS 1 that hit multiple targets that happens a lot.

NeXeD.3042:

Things must seriously be different in whatever pvp matches you join, I didn’t see you get focused once. Everytime I come on screen of the other team they all immediately switch to me.

That gameplay is a shining example of why you should focus the necro rather than letting them 2 shot the other classes

If you’re in the middle of a big brawl at mid with this type build, you’re probably doing it wrong.

Wow. I’m not saying I’d be in the middle of the god kitten ed fight. However, in tpvp most of the time they can still see me if I can hit them…… and once they see me I get focused pretty much every god kitten ed time, watching his game play there was only one sequence were someone was even targeting him…. I wish people would leave me alone that kittening long.

NeXeD.3042:

Wow. I’m not saying I’d be in the middle of the god kitten ed fight. However, in tpvp most of the time they can still see me if I can hit them…… and once they see me I get focused pretty much every god kitten ed time, watching his game play there was only one sequence were someone was even targeting him…. I wish people would leave me alone that kittening long.

Seems like an appropriate response.

Without knowing anything other than your rage, I would guess you either play team pvp where they know enough to focus you and actually work together, you use lich early and often, or you get into bad situations whether through numbers or positioning. But the reason I would say that is you keep saying “they” and “they all focus me as soon as I’m on screen”

I kind of gave up on playing a powermancer in spvp and tpvp to be honest.

I’m not trying to rage here lol, yeah I play mostly spvp tpvp and wvw. And even on the teams I play on when we see a necro we bomb it. We know it will be weak to cc so we wait for it to blow it’s stun break and nuke the kitten out of it. I’m fully expecting it everytime and if they don’t well they’re stupid the build I use is tankier with either carrion or rabid so I can get a little close to the action and it’s my job to take out the boon heavy classes so I do sometimes have to jump in, but even if I don’t a theif, a mes, a ranger or a warrior is on my as soon as I come into view regardless of where I position myself.

I Apologize for all the kittens. I still find it hilarious that it says kitten so I’m far more likely to use those naughty words on these forums than I normally are.

I enjoyed the video.

Some gameplay tips:

1. Use Focused Rituals
2. Spectral Grasp may be useful at lower ranks but will turn out to be useless, detrimental or even dangerous for the caster vs experienced opponents
3. Well of Corruption is very much worth it
4. Sigils of Energy are a must for a necro in high-end PvP

leman.7682:

1. Spectral Grasp may be useful at lower ranks but will turn out to be useless, detrimental or even dangerous for the caster vs experienced opponents

It’s useful even vs. very experienced opponents. You just have to use it with brain and not waste it when it has to travel 1000 range and your target has dodge avalible.

But in current boonspam meta with Strenght Runes, Corrupt Boon in tPvP is almost a must.

Rym.1469:

leman.7682:

1. Spectral Grasp may be useful at lower ranks but will turn out to be useless, detrimental or even dangerous for the caster vs experienced opponents

It’s useful even vs. very experienced opponents. You just have to use it with brain and not waste it when it has to travel 1000 range and your target has dodge avalible.

But in current boonspam meta with Strenght Runes, Corrupt Boon in tPvP is almost a must.

I disagree. You obviously won’t pull warriors to you as the OP suggested. That would end in total obliteration. It definitelly sucks vs thieves, mesmers and AI specs (los issues). Not useful as interrupt + chill, cos there are just better options.

I stand by my opinion, it is useless in anything that isn’t top90%, because it’s just so kitten easy for skilled players to avoid it.

leman.7682:

Rym.1469:

leman.7682:

1. Spectral Grasp may be useful at lower ranks but will turn out to be useless, detrimental or even dangerous for the caster vs experienced opponents

It’s useful even vs. very experienced opponents. You just have to use it with brain and not waste it when it has to travel 1000 range and your target has dodge avalible.

But in current boonspam meta with Strenght Runes, Corrupt Boon in tPvP is almost a must.

I disagree. You obviously won’t pull warriors to you as the OP suggested. That would end in total obliteration. It definitelly sucks vs thieves, mesmers and AI specs (los issues). Not useful as interrupt + chill, cos there are just better options.

I stand by my opinion, it is useless in anything that isn’t top90%, because it’s just so kitten easy for skilled players to avoid it.

Actually, Spectral Grasp is one of the best 1v1 skills we have regardless of what class you’re facing.
The reason why no one uses it in pvp is because aoe skills or stun breaks bring more utility in team fights.

You guys are right, it’s probably not the best utility skill but it has worked for me so far and ive had a lot of fun with it. In one match, I pulled the same ele 3 times of the high part at the keep in the forest of niflhel. And in general the 15% life force, 5 sec chill and the interrupt/pull is great.
And Ieman, I don’t use focused rituals because if I dark pact someone at my feet if don’t need to be able to cast it at a range, an this happens 70% of the time. Or, you spectral walk, go into the middle of the brawl with DS, do DS 5/4, drop well, spectral recall and than spam staff skills.

leman.7682:

Rym.1469:

leman.7682:

1. Spectral Grasp may be useful at lower ranks but will turn out to be useless, detrimental or even dangerous for the caster vs experienced opponents

It’s useful even vs. very experienced opponents. You just have to use it with brain and not waste it when it has to travel 1000 range and your target has dodge avalible.

But in current boonspam meta with Strenght Runes, Corrupt Boon in tPvP is almost a must.

I disagree. You obviously won’t pull warriors to you as the OP suggested. That would end in total obliteration. It definitelly sucks vs thieves, mesmers and AI specs (los issues). Not useful as interrupt + chill, cos there are just better options.

I stand by my opinion, it is useless in anything that isn’t top90%, because it’s just so kitten easy for skilled players to avoid it.

It works as interrupt and chill indeed. And LF generation.

Now I can’t say that it works in tPvP matches now, because of the reason I listed.
But prior to 15th April patch, I was using it on regular base in Power build, reaching top 150 in EU.

I say, it isn’t useless altogether. It serves specific purposes and has to be timed, but right usage can not only interrupt enemy’s rotation, but also set up your burst. Not with wells really (since I very rarely use offensive ones), but with other sources too.

EDIT: As for “pulling warriors” you have to again, use it with brain. If you don’t want to waste dodge for Warrior’s EA, you can just pull him mid-air. Or just chain CC him. Or pull him into some hole.
Various usages.

Watch my previous videos for some combos that I started with spectral grab.

I think we can agree it has some decent usage possibilities and brings quite some utility but at the same time there are generally more favourable choices at the moment.

leman.7682:

I think we can agree it has some decent usage possibilities and brings quite some utility but at the same time there are generally more favourable choices at the moment.

Subjective statement is subjective.

Roe.3679:

leman.7682:

I think we can agree it has some decent usage possibilities and brings quite some utility but at the same time there are generally more favourable choices at the moment.

Subjective statement is subjective.

Wothless reply is worthless…

leman.7682:

Roe.3679:

leman.7682:

I think we can agree it has some decent usage possibilities and brings quite some utility but at the same time there are generally more favourable choices at the moment.

Subjective statement is subjective.

Wothless reply is worthless…

You mean yours? You can’t just say grasp doesn’t work when it works for him. And then you suggest well of corruption which I think is funny because he has plenty of CC to get someone stuck in one well, but probably not enough for a second, so it’s just a dodge roll away from being a wasted spot.

It is your opinion that spectral grasp isn’t a good choice, and not a fact like you seem to think it is.

I meant your pointless inflamatory post that brought nothing into discussion.
I tried to build some bridge to mutual understanding with the OP, but you had to come and start a totally puny attack.

I have yet to see a top necro play that skill in tPvP. The fact is, current meta, understood as the specs people are running does not make Spectral Grasp an overly useful skill. It can be easily dodged, evaded, blocked, LOSed, strafed, kited. Easily.

That is a fact. Coming from high EU tpvp perspective.

It may work for our friend OP, but he isn’t a top player yet (although he plays much better than his opponents in the video – but this is actually working against the position you argue). That is another fact and you are basing your posts on the negligence of it.

leman.7682:

I meant your pointless inflamatory post that brought nothing into discussion.
I tried to build some bridge to mutual understandment with the OP, but you had to come and start a totally puny attack.

I have yet to see a top necro play that skill in tPvP. The fact is, current meta, understood as the specs people are running does not make Spectral Grasp an overly useful skill. It can be easily dodged, evaded, blocked, LOSed, strafed, kited. Easily.

That is a fact. Coming from high EU tpvp perspective.

It may work for our friend OP, but he isn’t a top player yet (although he plays much better than his opponents in the video – but this is actually working against the position you argue). That is another fact and you are basing your posts on the negligence of it.

Taking a moment to point out that your opinion and experience is not the end all be all of necromancer experience is in no way inflammatory or pointless. It’s really easy to land spectral grasp, especially with the abundance of CC in a spec like this. It rarely misses. Plus pointing out that it can miss for a variety of reasons seems silly since, you know, everything can be dodged, kited, blocked, etc.

Now, pointing out that understandment isn’t a word… that would be pointless and inflammatory. But I’m sorry you find differing opinions so frustrating.

Without trying to detract from your enthusiasm for your build or make a disparaging judgement on your skill at building or playing, I watched this video at least for the first third of it and I feel it is a shining example of bad players rather than the power of this build or any strength of necro.

Rather than leaving it at that I will deconstruct a little of why I feel this way. In your first set of engagements in spirit watch you got the complete drop on an engie from behind who was otherwise engaged fighting another player.

Right away you can see their team is very bad as the score is 177 red to 350 blue, blue owns all points and yet they are still fighting in the streets and not on points. They probably got sucked into a stillness battle that lasted too long from the look of it as their 3-4 were taking to long to take down someone bunkerish on blue at stillness and that’s when you merked one engie off the edge. Any class with some burst could do that.

Next up we have a five step juke that any decent player would have just turned around and walked the five steps to finish killing you and some end of the match battles against demoralized bads and a non minion necro using axe that didn’t bother to fear you. Your chain fear of the ele was decent and fearing the guardian into the pit was ok but the opponents were just awful in general due to the score and their lack of focus on you.

I’ve found really awful teams in tpvp lately versus yoloq and my theory is yoloq is actually tougher quite often because people used to soloing in yoloq can be a lot tougher than mainly pve guildies who got together for a night of ranked tpvp at times. There are certainly great tpvp teams out there with a team build and focus but there are also a lot of pve-centric disorganized guildies too. I have more bipolar experiences in tpvp than solo ranked where people can be disorganized but consistently good. I’ve been really incredulous how bad teams in tpvp can be sometimes and I can only explain it by casual guildie night. I’m curious as to which type it is in your video. I haven’t watched past the spirit watch segment because I got bored by that point. Again I’m not criticizing you or trolling just pointing out how bad the opponents in the video are and the only reason I bring it up is because ‘showcase videos of bads’ paint an inaccurate picture of the class.

I will say that spectral grasp is probably underrated on necro esp. in combination with well but again engie has magnet, boon stacking, escapes hard cc solid pets, heals etc.

Plenty of room for scorpion wire on thief builds with a faster cooldown too if the main strength of it here is to pull someone out of a mid brawl and gank them on the edge.

King your seeing what I am. It’s a prime example of why you don’t leave the zerker necro alone. He doesn’t get focused I could take videos of me not getting focused and it would basically be me maniacally laughing at mea king people run into walls.

His gameplay is not bad it just doesn’t show what he does when he gets in trouble. Comboing is one thing responding to being attack with different things is another

NeXeD.3042:

King your seeing what I am. It’s a prime example of why you don’t leave the zerker necro alone. He doesn’t get focused I could take videos of me not getting focused and it would basically be me maniacally laughing at mea king people run into walls.

His gameplay is not bad it just doesn’t show what he does when he gets in trouble. Comboing is one thing responding to being attack with different things is another

Honestly I’ve jumped back on power wellomancer 6/2/0/06 just due to this with three wells might stack and lich. Since defense doesn’t really work at high play I might as well be ‘offensive support’ and just stay out of all fights except when I can creep up and sway a cap battle our way using targeted well and lich. It feels really noobish but it works and my time to live is about the same in any play style but MM which can’t bunker properly anyway. Instead of pulling someone out with spectral grab just run targeted wells to be better and more versatile. I could drop wod and put grab in its place but the wod is one of the few things to hold off a focus for a bit.

Dumped traveler/speed runes for strength since you can’t kite worth a crap anymore versus good players due to torment. It’s better to be highly threatening and at least instantly force them to change their play style this way than spam a few condis at range etc. I just wonder how it compares to a glass staff ele and who can do this play style better as I never see staff eles.

Lich is awesome for sideline nuking when they either don’t or can’t focus you with good positioning.

As others have said, I think this video showcases what a Powermancer can do if left alone, which I believe is something people often don’t realize (especially when they are new).

If you want to demonstrate a build’s “top-tier” PvP viability (you may not want to do this, but in case you want to in the future), however, you may want to do a few things:

1. Show less 2v1s. Some weren’t technically 2v1, but near the end the fights seemed to go like this:

Ele runs into Necro/Necro. Ele dies. Mesmer runs in and only tries to blindly res. Mesmer dies. Stealth Thief runs in, has his heal interrupted and has no back-up utility to break stun, dies.

Many of the fights looked like they were going your way, and you turreted in the back to make them go your way harder.

2. Don’t make fun of the opponents you are demonstrating viability against. See: the Hambow warrior. I think you wanted to show “Look at me killing a Hambow, this build is strong against meta things like that”, but then when the Warrior whiffs and ES terribly, you even put a “Best Earthshaker NA” comment in the vid.

It’s good for players to know that bad players playing a meta build are still bad players and can be killed, but it does no favors for your build’s credibility.

Well this is all quite true, I only put the 2v1’s in because vs the ele I had a huge burst which I wanted to show, the mesmer was only there because it was part of a longer clip, and the thief for the Nice interrupt/dmg I got in.
I did make a bit of fun of the earthshaker, because he missed it, but I only said ‘classic hambow’ because it was against a classic/meta warrior build. This build has a hard time against those builds and someone asked me to put a clip of that in. I’ll have to agree that it wasn’t the best hambow, but it was one.
And lastly, as a necro you don’t want to be focused in group fights. Things I do to avoid this is come later into the fight, stay in the back, pull out enemies with spectral grab and burst them down, and fear enemies away if they do focus you and just continue running around. I’ll try to add some clips of me getting focused in my next vid if that is what you guys want and what I do to avoid this.

Hambow is strong against any necro but realistically most warriors are weak to damage that you can get from life blast in a power build. Healing signet doesn’t really offer any way to recover from hits like that. If you can avoid the stuns and kite them they don’t have much of an answer for that kind of pressure.

Otaking.4675:

Without trying to detract from your enthusiasm for your build or make a disparaging judgement on your skill at building or playing, I watched this video at least for the first third of it and I feel it is a shining example of bad players rather than the power of this build or any strength of necro.

Rather than leaving it at that I will deconstruct a little of why I feel this way. In your first set of engagements in spirit watch you got the complete drop on an engie from behind who was otherwise engaged fighting another player.

Right away you can see their team is very bad as the score is 177 red to 350 blue, blue owns all points and yet they are still fighting in the streets and not on points. They probably got sucked into a stillness battle that lasted too long from the look of it as their 3-4 were taking to long to take down someone bunkerish on blue at stillness and that’s when you merked one engie off the edge. Any class with some burst could do that.

Next up we have a five step juke that any decent player would have just turned around and walked the five steps to finish killing you and some end of the match battles against demoralized bads and a non minion necro using axe that didn’t bother to fear you. Your chain fear of the ele was decent and fearing the guardian into the pit was ok but the opponents were just awful in general due to the score and their lack of focus on you.

I’ve found really awful teams in tpvp lately versus yoloq and my theory is yoloq is actually tougher quite often because people used to soloing in yoloq can be a lot tougher than mainly pve guildies who got together for a night of ranked tpvp at times. There are certainly great tpvp teams out there with a team build and focus but there are also a lot of pve-centric disorganized guildies too. I have more bipolar experiences in tpvp than solo ranked where people can be disorganized but consistently good. I’ve been really incredulous how bad teams in tpvp can be sometimes and I can only explain it by casual guildie night. I’m curious as to which type it is in your video. I haven’t watched past the spirit watch segment because I got bored by that point. Again I’m not criticizing you or trolling just pointing out how bad the opponents in the video are and the only reason I bring it up is because ‘showcase videos of bads’ paint an inaccurate picture of the class.

1. This was all solo arena. Hotjoins are a joke and solo arena offers some competition. I don’t have a lot of friends in game (T.T) and only joined a guild because if then be in one. The only thing I can do for some better opponents is press solo arena and hope for some interesting matches. I’m not saying ’I’m the best player no one can compete with me’ but 65% is my team destroying the other team, 5% is having a decent match where it was pretty fair, and 30% is my team getting destroyed by a way better/organized group.
2. The engi at the beginning was turned around when he saw me but just didn’t have enough time to react before I casted staff 5, and than bursted him.
3. The spectral walk juke was the only segment I had where I used spectral recall at the time. It ofcourse wasn’t the best but I wanted to show its usefulness. I have a better clip on my computer which will be in my next vid.
4. No offense was taken by your comment, everyone has an opinion and I respect that. When I was putting this video together I also didn’t think it was the best video, but I needed some video space and it was decent. My next one will be better, I already have some interesting clips.

Roe.3679:

Now, pointing out that understandment isn’t a word… that would be pointless and inflammatory. But I’m sorry you find differing opinions so frustrating.

And yet you did what you wanted, namely pointed out my English mistake. Let me just tell you that not everyone is a native speaker here, so your post, in fact, is inflammatory.

Your argument, that highlighting Spectral Grasp being easy to avoid was silly, is wrong.
It is infinitely easier to avoid it than engie’s magnet and thief’s wire for instance (both less telegraphed), which I usually dodge anyways.
These two skills also work much better with their respective classes (stealth helps land them) and in case of engie, the skill comes with a nice additional package of tool kit.

Don’t let me get started on the opportunity costs of taking it in the high-end PvP. They are huge.

I’m leaving this discussion. Won’t continue talking to some random guy who comes and decides he preferes to point out language mistakes of a non-native speaker and pick fights without giving any solid arguments other than ’it’s easy to land, it rarely misses’. I wish you all the luck in making the skill relatively worth the slot spot in whatever type of whimsical PvP you’re using it in.

Also, I don’t find differing opinions frustrating. I just can’t stand random opinions from random people having random value, which in your case was close to 0.

leman.7682:

It is infinitely easier to avoid it than engie’s magnet and thief’s wire for instance (both less telegraphed), which I usually dodge anyways.

I agree on wire, but magnet… meh, don’t think so.
From the engi perspective it is a lot easier to hit someone, that’s for sure. After all it’s not a projectile. But it has a much longer cast time and a more obvious animation, it almost looks like a Tainted Shackles beam. Everyone can instantly see the magnet coming, so you can actually be a lot more sneaky with Spectral Grasp.

However, this…

leman.7682:

Don’t let me get started on the opportunity costs of taking it in the high-end PvP. They are huge.

…is the real problem.
I actually use Spectral Grasp a lot in WvW, especially duels. But in tpvp there’s no way I’m giving up other skills for this one.
On the other hand, almost every engineer is using the Tool Kit anyway.
And I have only ever seen Scorpion Wire being used when thieves troll on Skyhammer.

Just because people have played a lot of pvp matches doesnt mean they can/will see everything that is happening. Sure, they might know what to expect but they are not gods that dodge/block everything. Spectral grab might actually catch them off guard because they’re not expecting it. Just a thought…

Holl.3109:

Spectral grab might actually catch them off guard because they’re not expecting it. Just a thought…

That is actually a valid argument. Still I do stand by my opinion of there being much better and more importantly safer, more universal choices.
I’m gonna run some spectral builds in the coming days to give it another try.

In the last 2 weeks in my pvp matches i have only been pulled one time by a magnet engineer. Other than that there were no other grabs/pulls. So it’s a rarely used mechanic in the game that will be sure to catch people off guard.
Yesterday I pulled a warrior off the wooden structures around the click tower in khylo. He was just about to enter the clock tower but I just managed to pull him all the way back to me (on the ground below) an ele even said ‘lolololol that pull doe’.

Have you tried your build in soloq or teamq yet? If so how did it go?

NeXeD.3042:

Have you tried your build in soloq or teamq yet? If so how did it go?

I have only been playing it in sPvP and it works like a charm. 1v1’s, 2v2’s and roaming all go really well. In group fights you have to be careful, but it helps the team a lot. Another vid coming soon

It would a better test for your build in soloq or teamq I think. The skill level of the players is usually better, not always mind you.

Wait sPvP doesn’t mean solo arena match? Is sPvP hotjoint? Fuccccccckkkkkkkk……. Then I’ve been saying things so wrong

Than yes I meant I’ve only been playing in solo arena matches. It’s very good! An I saw your power build, and was wondering if you woul like to duel me sometime. Never faced another decent powermancer

Sure. I’m not really a duelist, and my build is meant for team fights.

Would this work for WvW as well? and what armor would you pick for it?

MrSimpleMan.6194:

Would this work for WvW as well? and what armor would you pick for it?

Yeah, although it wouldn’t be all that good in zergs, small group roaming and solo roaming should be fine. For solo 1v1’s just go full berserker, but for small groups I would recommend some vit/toughness (due to all the AoE’s that will be hitting you), although its your choice on how much. Ill probably make some WvW videos with this build later when I get my ascended dagger.

NeXeD.3042:

Sure. I’m not really a duelist, and my build is meant for team fights.

What server are you on? Im on far shiverpeaks.

Playing the same build in SoloQ but with Sigil of Rage on my dagger for better cast speed (always swap to dagger when want to use Lich Form) and Sigil of Air(or Sigil of Battle) + Sigil of Fire on my staff for DS. Its also good with Valkyrie Amulet + Runes of Pack.

tuman.6593:

Playing the same build in SoloQ but with Sigil of Rage on my dagger for better cast speed (always swap to dagger when want to use Lich Form) and Sigil of Air(or Sigil of Battle) + Sigil of Fire on my staff for DS. Its also good with Valkyrie Amulet + Runes of Pack.

This build works well with most gear. Although I’m full glass canon. And he if you proc air/fire on a lich auto it can easily do 11k+ dmg!

yep but i prefer sigil of rage on a lich cuz all lich form abilities have very slow cast speed and its not bad for autoattack too

tuman.6593:

yep but i prefer sigil of rage on a lich cuz all lich form abilities have very slow cast speed and its not bad for autoattack too

If it works for you its fine but my only concerns are that it’s only 3 seconds and very unpredictable.

Yeah I just realized your EU. I’m NA on Dragonbrand… so I don’t think we could duel anyway.

just logged to say this: been using this build whit some minor chance but the main core of this build is a blast, There is no more scary thief or scary mesmer against this baby! dude i jsut take you tip and change my rune for strong rune and dual sigil, i was using axe/warhorn but no anymore, i switch to d/f and wtf is a nasty damage!

people dont know wth is killing then so fast!

Funny stuff: a warrior was capping our home and i was defengind i start my rotation:

spectral grasp+dark pact+spinal shiver+well of suffering+well of corruption
after he die in just a few sec he accuses me from 2vs1 him suppose me and a thief. So i tell him watch you damage historial.
all of that in a matter of sec and BOOM, sigil proc+spinal shiver proc by traits. is a mass destruction combo.

Holl.3109:

tuman.6593:

Playing the same build in SoloQ but with Sigil of Rage on my dagger for better cast speed (always swap to dagger when want to use Lich Form) and Sigil of Air(or Sigil of Battle) + Sigil of Fire on my staff for DS. Its also good with Valkyrie Amulet + Runes of Pack.

This build works well with most gear. Although I’m full glass canon. And he if you proc air/fire on a lich auto it can easily do 11k+ dmg!

I just 2 hit a ranger maybe he was a zerker but anyway..another one bite the dust!