Guild Wars 2

Vampiric Minor Trait: Siphon health whenever you hit a foe.

Vampiric Precision Major Trait: Siphon health whenever you critical hit.

Do you siphon twice on crit hits, siphon more, or does one just get canceled out?

My initial assumption is that the traits weren’t thought out and they probably cancel, making it silly to bring both. But maybe I’m wrong and you actually siphon twice. Anyone know for sure?

Been playing a blood necro for the past 13 months; my main with nearly 3,000 hours put into it. The answer is, “Yes, you siphon twice. Once for the hit and once again for the crit.”

If you crit – Twice. Once for the on-hit and once for the on-crit, at the same time.

It’s too low regen even when they hit twice. But siphon works good in minion build

Rennoko.5731:

If you crit – Twice. Once for the on-hit and once for the on-crit, at the same time.

Well, I know that’s what should happen via the descriptions. But I’m wondering if anyone has tested or run this to know for sure that you actually siphon twice.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Rennoko.5731:

If you crit – Twice. Once for the on-hit and once for the on-crit, at the same time.

Well, I know that’s what should happen via the descriptions. But I’m wondering if anyone has tested or run this to know for sure that you actually siphon twice.

You do, you see two green healing numbers associated with the two siphons.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Rennoko.5731:

If you crit – Twice. Once for the on-hit and once for the on-crit, at the same time.

Well, I know that’s what should happen via the descriptions. But I’m wondering if anyone has tested or run this to know for sure that you actually siphon twice.

Been playing a blood necro for the past 13 months; my main with nearly 3,000 hours put into it. The answer is, “Yes, you siphon twice. Once for the hit and once for the crit.”

Since we’re on the subject of Vampiric traits, I wanted to ask: How good is the Vampiric Rituals Trait? because I heard it’s Siphon is pretty low…
As a Vampiric Wellomancer I’m still struggling weather I should use:
1. Bloodthirst + Vampiric Precision + Ritual Mastery
2. Bloodthirst + Vampiric Precision + Vampiric Rituals
3. Bloodthirst + Ritual Mastery + Vampiric Rituals

What do you guys use?

I still can’t get over the fact, that even though we spec for it, trait for it and have to rely on minions hitting things to get heals, a warriors healing signet still outheals something that we specifically spec into….

SrebX.6498:

Since we’re on the subject of Vampiric traits, I wanted to ask: How good is the Vampiric Rituals Trait? because I heard it’s Siphon is pretty low…
As a Vampiric Wellomancer I’m still struggling weather I should use:
1. Bloodthirst + Vampiric Precision + Ritual Mastery
2. Bloodthirst + Vampiric Precision + Vampiric Rituals
3. Bloodthirst + Ritual Mastery + Vampiric Rituals

What do you guys use?

For wells, I usually would go bloodthirst+ritual mastery+vampiric rituals simply because, while wells can crit, the overall sheer damage packets you’ll be doing with the aoe will suffice without vampiric precision and the reduced recharge on the wells is a must (if you’re running full well build, if not you might opt for vamp precision instead)

Loco.4561:

I still can’t get over the fact, that even though we spec for it, trait for it and have to rely on minions hitting things to get heals, a warriors healing signet still outheals something that we specifically spec into….

its balancing rooted in the games core; giving every class/spec access to a healing skill makes any healing obtained from traits, skills, etc all weak (because they dont need to be; when everyone can heal already)

Loco.4561:

I still can’t get over the fact, that even though we spec for it, trait for it and have to rely on minions hitting things to get heals, a warriors healing signet still outheals something that we specifically spec into….

Don’t feel too bad, warriors can even out-regen guardians now :P There’s several posts in the guard forums exploding about how op warrior passive regen is lol. At least we still have our “jobs” . Guards are getting outsourced by banner and shout warriors these days

SrebX.6498:

Since we’re on the subject of Vampiric traits, I wanted to ask: How good is the Vampiric Rituals Trait? because I heard it’s Siphon is pretty low…
As a Vampiric Wellomancer I’m still struggling weather I should use:
1. Bloodthirst + Vampiric Precision + Ritual Mastery
2. Bloodthirst + Vampiric Precision + Vampiric Rituals
3. Bloodthirst + Ritual Mastery + Vampiric Rituals

What do you guys use?

Depends on the game mode. In PvP, it’s unlikely you’re going to lock down decent players inside your wells long enough to take advantage of any siphoning from them.

In WvWvW, wells are fantastic for solo-capping supply camps and fighting against NPCs. They’re even decent in bottlenecks and large zerg battles against real players where you can “hide” your wells inside the particle effect over-kill. Not so good for small-party roaming as then you’re playing more akin to PvP where real players will just walk, blink, dodge, or leap out of your well.

In PvE, wells are very useful for the same reasons they are in WvWvW camp raiding; dumb mobs will just stand inside them and melt.

Depending on what game mode you wish to play will inform your decision of which traits to take.