Guild Wars 2

I have a level 40 necro and play D/D and staff and try using power builds. Works pretty well but when traiting especially into blood magic I want to use the vampiric traits but they just don’t seem to pack enough of a punch to really consider them. Even the dagger #2 it deals good damage but the healing is terrible. Does anyone else think Anet needs to look into vampirisim and the traits that follow making it a legitimate line that steals health viably?

Oh yes we do. Some have reported success by going “all in” on vampirics.

This meaning siphon on crit, siphon on hit, siphon on wells, and as many vampiric sigils and runes as they can lay their hands on.

It is almost as if Anet is not aware of the kind of numbers direct damage can output.

restoration.2806:

Does anyone else think Anet needs to look into vampirisim and the traits that follow making it a legitimate line that steals health viably?

At the rate things are going, never gonna happen.

Bellocchi.4593:

restoration.2806:

Does anyone else think Anet needs to look into vampirisim and the traits that follow making it a legitimate line that steals health viably?

At the rate things are going, never gonna happen.

No, they think its more important our dark scythe appears while we cast Mark of Blood.

digiowl.9620:

Oh yes we do. Some have reported success by going “all in” on vampirics.

This meaning siphon on crit, siphon on hit, siphon on wells, and as many vampiric sigils and runes as they can lay their hands on.

It is almost as if Anet is not aware of the kind of numbers direct damage can output.

So your telling me vampiric works? How about on a power build cause I wouldn’t use siphon on crit with low crit rate.

restoration.2806:

digiowl.9620:

Oh yes we do. Some have reported success by going “all in” on vampirics.

This meaning siphon on crit, siphon on hit, siphon on wells, and as many vampiric sigils and runes as they can lay their hands on.

It is almost as if Anet is not aware of the kind of numbers direct damage can output.

So your telling me vampiric works? How about on a power build cause I wouldn’t use siphon on crit with low crit rate.

It doesn’t.

It appears that i left out a word.

Yes, most of us will say that vampirics are under-performing. But there are a few contrarian voices out there.

restoration.2806:

digiowl.9620:

Oh yes we do. Some have reported success by going “all in” on vampirics.

This meaning siphon on crit, siphon on hit, siphon on wells, and as many vampiric sigils and runes as they can lay their hands on.

It is almost as if Anet is not aware of the kind of numbers direct damage can output.

So your telling me vampiric works? How about on a power build cause I wouldn’t use siphon on crit with low crit rate.

Vampiric in theory should works with Knight Amulet, and Toughness you get from Runes and Traits, but the higher health and consistent life siphon would help you to get alive, compensating the lower Armor. But since our vampiric traits doesnt scale with healing Power, its such a lame. IMO, they could remake the vampiric mechanic and make it scale with Power.

Meh, i am starting to think that whoever claims so and so build works (be it vampirics, axe, or some other such claim) are better than average at kiting their opposition.

digiowl.9620:

Meh, i am starting to think that whoever claims so and so build works (be it vampirics, axe, or some other such claim) are better than average at kiting their opposition.

I would think by this way, but even the Top Necros at Competitive Teams play with general specs. Not that it matters.

digiowl.9620:

Meh, i am starting to think that whoever claims so and so build works (be it vampirics, axe, or some other such claim) are better than average at kiting their opposition.

No. They’re casuals fighting casuals.

I won’t say it’s the top build, but it’s competitve.

I use vampiric on hit, on crit and on minion hit. I also got some healing and thoughtness gear some my #2 from dagger is pretty good.

PvE : Really good. You can tank quite a bit of damage and you always regen some. I only PvE for the new fractale and while I can still pack a punch, I heal pretty fast from ennemies damage. Axe #2 hit really fast so it regen a good number of hp.

WvW : Depend who you are fighting, some will burst tru it like nothing. Other build it will save your life. Ranged group abd siege it’s really useful because you don’t have to go back to heal. You take a bit of damage, but you heal over it.

sPvP : Didn’t try, could be garbage. But bunker vampiric build might be good?

Can someone link a vampiric build? i’m curious what weapons you use on offhand if using a single handed weapon or main hand, traits and utilities, i’m talking specifically for PvE and WvW.

Kardiamond.6952:

I won’t say it’s the top build, but it’s competitve.

I use vampiric on hit, on crit and on minion hit. I also got some healing and thoughtness gear some my #2 from dagger is pretty good.

PvE : Really good. You can tank quite a bit of damage and you always regen some. I only PvE for the new fractale and while I can still pack a punch, I heal pretty fast from ennemies damage. Axe #2 hit really fast so it regen a good number of hp.

WvW : Depend who you are fighting, some will burst tru it like nothing. Other build it will save your life. Ranged group abd siege it’s really useful because you don’t have to go back to heal. You take a bit of damage, but you heal over it.

sPvP : Didn’t try, could be garbage. But bunker vampiric build might be good?

I dont wanna seem a schmuck, but in PvE everything goes fine, patrically. In WvW, despite you have some fights, the strategy and sieges makes much more difference than players build. In sPvP, I think that should be our best bunker build, but not even work.

I’d love to try a vampiric build, but I couldn’t sacrifice my traits. I’m 30 in soul reaping for DS stability, 30 in curses, and 10 in spite. I’m a power crit DS build, and if I didn’t have my crit I’d probably cry at the pathetic damage lol

Sounds very similar to a build i have already seen.

Honestly tho. What seems to carry are the gear and food, not the traits.

I feel that the ability, steal health on hit should apply to condition ticks as well. That would make a vamp necro complete in my opinion, even without steal on crit….because i use a power, cond, and vita build…too squishy to not have vitality or toughness as an attribute.

Haley.2390:

digiowl.9620:

Meh, i am starting to think that whoever claims so and so build works (be it vampirics, axe, or some other such claim) are better than average at kiting their opposition.

I’ve met a Necro who face tanked everything in SE path 1 with mainhand dagger. He was face tanking 3-4 of those waves in the beginning by himself with no one else helping him or healing him while we went on ahead.

I asked him a bit about his build. He used the full vampiric line, Knights set, wells, well protection, and Omnomberry Pies (which he says is crucial and not a luxury.) He claimed that he tanks better than Warriors and Guardians because he says that his healing mitigates a lot more damage than they can (with the only drawback being knockdowns which he deathshrouds for.

Maybe he’ll see this thread and shine more light on it. Or I guess you can PM me in game and I’ll refer you to him (he seemed like a nice guy.)

Sounds like something akin to this then.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNAo4djMah6Vaaa87JApHNjt1TP42bxjKUMA;TwAA2Coocy4kwJrTOnkOtwYgxOkZIA

Obviously with Toughness instead of Vitality since we are talking about PvE.

With Master Maintenance Oil & Omnomberry Pie.