Vampiric and Vampiric Precision

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Posted by: Hanzo.9624

Hanzo.9624

Vampiric: Siphon health when you hit a foe.

Vampiric Precision: Siphon health whenever you critical hit.

Shouldn’t Vampiric cover both? A hit is a hit. It doesn’t say, “Siphon health on all non-crit attacks against a foe”. The tooltip gives the impression that ANY time you hit a foe, you will be siphoning health which would include crits. Does that mean that if I critical hit with just Vampiric that it won’t siphon health? Or does it only affect non-crits and you would need both traits activated to gain siphoning on every attack?

Or is Vampiric Precision just a weaker version of Vampiric because it ONLY works on crits, hence the 10 point vs 15 point factor? If that’s the case, then would having both activated mean you siphon x2 on crits or would Vampiric just nullify the effects of Vampiric Precision? Just wondering, been bugging me.

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Posted by: Bas.7406

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Vamp Precision is a higher heal. If you take both traits, you get two heals every time you crit. You get the base heal, and the crit heal. If you really want to mess with people take Minions or wells siphon health, the siphon crit, siphon on hit and 50 percent effectiveness.

If you play minions, you get a constant stream of healing especially if you go with bunker builds :P.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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If you have both, and you crit, you will siphon twice.

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Posted by: Laii.2780

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With 20 points in Blood Magick, you can get both with the 50% siphoning^^.
Thats 37 HP every hit, and 87 hp from every crit~
(37 from vampiric + 50 from Vampiric Pre)

Those two together on crit almost heal as much as a thiefs Signet of Malice ^^. Also it procs off AoE Marks an Wells too. So if you hit 5 people with your mark of blood, and crit on all 5, you get 435 hp back^^.

It procs on Wells’ pulse too, and you can even take the Wells Siphon trait to add even more hp stealing power, buuht wells have a very large recharge and already proc these traits enyways~

If you use Gastly Claws and crit all 8 times you heal yourself for 696 damage and deal that much more Its a cheap way to makeyourself somewhat tanky and do a bit more damage~

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Posted by: digiowl.9620

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Those two together on crit almost heal as much as a thiefs Signet of Malice ^^. Also it procs off AoE Marks an Wells too. So if you hit 5 people with your mark of blood, and crit on all 5, you get 435 hp back^^.

Again reinforcing the issue that trait balance is all about level 80s in exotics (aka SPVP).

This because only at the end game can you set up that kind of a hit, and it requires you to have 5+ opponents standing on wells while you crit slap them. That takes quite a bit of recharge to set up (we can get 4 wells down, tho not all of them can crit on pulse). And it also require a build centered around critical hits.

I suspect that once you hit on said build tho, you become the attrition “god” that ANet envisions us to be. It takes a kittenload of effort tho, and can’t be sustained at all (you more or less have to be on the front lines of the battle).

But individually the various vampirics are just lackluster…

All in all, playing PVE seems a bit like the old D&D wizard mantra; dweeb at 1, god at 10, dead at 2.

(edited by digiowl.9620)