Guild Wars 2

I dont have the gold to create a new gear for my necro. Is it possible to run a Viper Build in WvW? maybe use Staff & GS?

what builds can I use with viper set?

As a general rule, I hate WvW so I am not very experienced at it. However, I know that Viper’s stats are kinda wasted in WvW because:

1. Players are very likely to cleanse, so expertise goes out the window
2. It’s easy easier to build lethal amounts of condi stacks on players as they do not have as much health as PvE enemies (anything from Vets upwards) so the enemy is very unlikely gonna live long enough to build high amounts of condis
3. Higher condi damage is preferable over duration as the chances of high duration are low (cause of reasons 1 & 2) so you’ll want your ticks to deal as much damage as possible in as little time as it takes

But, boy do I sympathize with the gold issue! Anyhoo, staff seems to be a staple in WvW necro builds so definitely. GS can be a damage dealer but it’s much riskier since you have to be in the thick of things and since you don’t have Trailblazer’s/Dire/Rabid you will have a harder time surviving. Personally I suggest you use scepter to maintain distance + constant condi pressure. Offhand is more up for debate; I’ve seen people using warhorn for the stun + speed. I personally never think of putting anything but dagger with scepter but I am rigid that way.

Maybe more experienced WvWers can give you better advice.

scepter staff rabid or carrion with grenth or scavaging runes, which can easily be purchased from dungeon vendors or wvw vendors on the cheap.

Assuming you are going condi. Warhorn for backline, and dagger offhand for front line. If their are enough guards with staff, and eles, most of the time you dont even have to bring your own swiftness.

Is there a build that I can go by or look at, I just created a Nerco, and looking for a good starter build. I like to group with a zerg, but I also like to roam, and run with small groups.

50/50 for me.

Gandalf.1537:

Is there a build that I can go by or look at, I just created a Nerco, and looking for a good starter build. I like to group with a zerg, but I also like to roam, and run with small groups.

50/50 for me.

Looks up Holts. He’s a good power necro and uses a more dps build which can be modded.

meeeeh ull be surprised how well viper/trailbrazers combo works well in wvw.

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its funny when u see target on the walls when u hit them and they start running around and u see only ur condi ticks and their HP drops to 0 behind the wall

tweak abit for ur likes and have fun with it.

CKres.4589:

Viper Necro viable for WvW?

From my experience: No, it’s not.

You can kill stuff but the typical roaming builds you will face hardcounter you. Which means you will have a hard time.

Teef (power based D/P or staff):
- kills you in less than 10 seconds. You are so squishy that he doesn’t even need to disengage for a few seconds when you enter shroud.

Mesmer:
-Condi Trailblazer:
— ignores your direct damage through high tougness
— outsustains your condi pressure through higher health pool and higher condi cleanse (on shatter)
— has superior mobility (you won’t land one single shroud5+4 combo)

-Power Shatter:
— two-shots you

Dragonhunter (power based):
- jumps at you and kills you in 5 seconds if you play aggressive, then cleanses the few condis you could apply before
- still outsustains you in 10 seconds if you try to survive

Warrior (power based):
- just wrecks you with a few hits

Druid:
- kites you to death while you try to hit him with your poor staff damage

Elementalist:
- the result highly depends on the ele build

Revenant:
- a good one will two-shot you as staff5, sword2 and damage sigils were not nerfed in wvw
- a bad one dies to your condi pressure

another Reaper:
- trailblazer: totally wrecks you due to superior healthpool and armor
- marauder: a good one can burst you, a bad one will lose against you

Scrapper:
- GZ, this is a class you hardcounter and should have an easy time against

Simple answer is NO.

I used Viper for 4-6 months and any time you are caught in a small group or solo you are dead in seconds.
I switched to trailbblaser and haven’t looked back, some classes still hard counter you … to be expected tbh. But most of the time in zerg you can manage to stick with your commander and watch the bags pile up.
Solo, it’s the only armour i have used where i can consistently beat thieves…. probably bad ones lol.

Viper’s is not amazing in WvW because necromancer has very few natural defenses and as a damage-dealing necromancer, you will be targeted.

It does fill a specific niche in siege bombing. Equip your Viper’s gear, Spectral Walk and Plaguelands, Spec Walk onto the siege and drop plaguelands, Spec Flip to safety. This will kill the siege and almost anyone stupid enough to stay on it.

If you want to play a heavy condi-oriented build in WvW, the most practical gearset is going to be Trailblazer’s. If you want to play hybrid, Celestial is strong.

It depends on your WvW experience and what you’re looking for. If you just ran to casually run in the zerg then yeah vipers will work probably, no need to worry. If you’re having issues just put in some exotic carrion/dire and that will work fine.

I personally only run Viper’s necro while I roam and I find it extremely strong. Trailblazer’s is on paper stronger and definitely the best route if you’re new to WvW, but you can make Viper’s work.

problem with trailbrazer gear is gold if that is an issue… trinkets u get easy with pve grind. exotics for free as helm, shoulders and gloves by doing WvW tiers with selectable stats.
craft is pain for me. so atm i’m stuck with trailbrazers trinkets and viper celestial gear.