Guild Wars 2

So going over the patch notes, I’m a little taken back. We have fundamental class issues, bugged talents, few (read 1) viable builds, which leave the class feeling in a completely unfinished state…and yet other classes are getting their cake and eating it too?

Are you serious anet? I picked the elemental shaman of gw2, didn’t I? I know what it’s like to play the ‘class’ that is ignored and it’s not fun.

I don’t think I’ll reroll. I do have a 40 thief and played warrior almost exclusively in the betas, have reached rank 10 in pvp multiple times, as well as on live, and I’m telling you guys that you NEED to have a serious sit-down talk with the necro class lead. He’s not doing his job…or is the new guy in the office and getting bullied by the other class leads or something.

The necro community would be content with a “we’re aware of the severe issues and are working on it” and they would know to stick it out. They’d be content with a “we think necros are perfect, actually nearly op at this poin” and they would know to move on.

All we’re asking for is some feedback like ALL other classes have received.

Geeesh people, do we really need yet another thread whining abou this? >_>

Yes, it is horrible and yes, we need some answers, but please…use the search function or something.

Yeah, I wouldn’t mind knowing if it’s worth continuing to pursue this class at this point. I enjoy the necro style but not the awful details of its execution. It’s nigh impossible for me to believe that we haven’t heard a single thing about it.

Maybe it’s not unreasonable to conclude that the lack of any comments from the developers or community relations reflects an general apathy about the profession.

well if these threads keep popping up it is clear evidence of that this is a major problem.

Maybe they are merely working on it and will talk about it once they have figured out what they’ll do?
The game has been out for a couple of weeks, most of which Anet was busy getting people to actually play, irrelevant of profession, or getting the trading post up and running – not to mention restoring all those hacked accounts and looking into various bug reports. They will get to the necro at some point.

Bananaheli: Yes, but it would really be sufficient to have one of them with a kittenload of responses. this way, we are just cluttering up the necromancer forum.

Frotee.2634:

Maybe they are merely working on it and will talk about it once they have figured out what they’ll do?
The game has been out for a couple of weeks, most of which Anet was busy getting people to actually play, irrelevant of profession, or getting the trading post up and running – not to mention restoring all those hacked accounts and looking into various bug reports. They will get to the necro at some point.

Bananaheli: Yes, but it would really be sufficient to have one of them with a kittenload of responses. this way, we are just cluttering up the necromancer forum.

Couldn’t agree more….people either need to deal with the fact that the necro for some have issues or just play something else. It’s not that hard….

A red post saying smth to the extent of " Guys , we know , we are figuring it out " will evaporate most of WTF posts.

Alexii.9425:

A red post saying smth to the extent of " Guys , we know , we are figuring it out " will evaporate most of WTF posts.

I use to think the same thing. However after looking at 3 previous MMO forums. When ever the developers take the time to respond to posts three things usually happen.

1: Everyone and there brother hijack the post and start to create a self sustaining crap storm of “what they dont like”.

2: The community keys in to the idea that the devs read and pay attention to forums, and take all complaints seriously. Thereby resulting in everyone who ever had a “bad experience” to post a topic about it and they usually blow it too extreme measures.

3: The player base is so disgruntled that they just rant about how much they want the developers to be fired, or have some other stupidly cruel and undeserved punishment for ruining there class.

This is just my opinion though. Keep in mind I am coming from the wild wild forums of SWTOR, which in my opinion is about as acidic as it gets for forum communities.

I don’t disagree with people who post these topics. There are not many other avenues to express your dissatisfaction with a game experience, and I tend to believe that a dev will (if they even try) look at the topic, and the first post. Creating swaths of " i hate >blah<" topics is just an evil we have to live with.

+) possible. But then again, on other class subforums i see the reds respond to similar cases. Just not here.

Totally disagree that communication, even if vague, is bad. There are diplomatic ways to assuage a large portion of an irritated player base in big ways. I would never expect communication necessarily, but were it to happen, I (and I suspect a lot of other necros) would greatly appreciate it. I’d love to see a post like: “We understand that there are concerns about the status of the necro profession as compared to other professions. We’re looking into some changes to bring it up to parity. Stay faithful and stay tuned.”

I mean sheeeit, kitten, that’s all you had to say [I used "kitten preemptively there fyi].

I still have faith in A.Net. I seriously doubt they don’t notice the plethora of issues currently plaguing the Necromancer. I’m betting the reason we weren’t addressed is because they are working on a larger scale project to fix those issues with a Necromancer and didn’t want to rush the job for this update.

deapee.7516:

The necro community would be content with a “we’re aware of the severe issues and are working on it” and they would know to stick it out. They’d be content with a “we think necros are perfect, actually nearly op at this poin” and they would know to move on.

I would be afraid if I would find a red post like this in here. Last time someone from Arena Net posted that the necro still needs love (Jon Peters, BWE3) we ended up with nothing but a scepter nerf.

nachtnebel.9168:

deapee.7516:

The necro community would be content with a “we’re aware of the severe issues and are working on it” and they would know to stick it out. They’d be content with a “we think necros are perfect, actually nearly op at this poin” and they would know to move on.

I would be afraid if I would find a red post like this in here. Last time someone from Arena Net posted that the necro still needs love (Jon Peters, BWE3) we ended up with nothing but a scepter nerf.

That’s a gross exaggeration. Not trying to deny that the Necromancer can use more luv but BWE3 changes were far from a nerf if you look at it with a bigger scope than just Scepter changes. For one, Wells came back from oblivion and became some what useful again. Also, they nerfed condition damage ACROSS THE BOARD, it was not a Necromancer specific nerf. If you think it was bad, look at Engineer pistol or ranger spirits.

Also the biggest quality of life change they did for condition necromancers was redistributing how you would stack bleeds over all the sets. The Staff change to Mark of Blood for one and the 3 stack bleed to Dark Path. You can’t just sit there and spam 1 anymore yes but at least your damage is no longer non-existent outside of your scepter.

Statements on class balance with such a microscopic and misinformed view on the game as a whole is pretty detrimental to the process.

Don’t get your hopes up guys.

Us engineers have been reporting many many issues with Kits since BWE1, if you dont know, that is months ago.

And it has been acknowledged, since BWE1, and they even promised to fix them AT LEAST by launch.

Well they ain’t fixed.

Get ready for a long bumpy road.

Okay, I didn’t mention the Wells, my bad. But the “across the board condition nerf” was a really hard hit for the necro, harder than for any other class.

And I wouldn’t call my point of view microscopic. The condition build was and still is our strongest build, and it also is way weaker than anything other classes have. They just kitten it up, instead of buffing our other builds they nerfed the only one that was somehow competitive.

Here’s your red post. Sheesh. The game hasn’t been out for three weeks yet, it’s far too early to be doing this amount of complaining. Have some patience, and enjoy what’s good.

what’s everyone complaining about? I’m loving my necro and I’m not having any problems enjoying the game. I can solo anything but a champion and I can run across whole zones quickly. What’s not to like?

roachsrealm.9284:

what’s everyone complaining about? I’m loving my necro and I’m not having any problems enjoying the game. I can solo anything but a champion and I can run across whole zones quickly. What’s not to like?

THANK you…finally.

Gongke.8576:

Here’s your red post. Sheesh. The game hasn’t been out for three weeks yet, it’s far too early to be doing this amount of complaining. Have some patience, and enjoy what’s good.

I posted that already but they still want to complain apparently :/

roachsrealm.9284:

what’s everyone complaining about? I’m loving my necro and I’m not having any problems enjoying the game. I can solo anything but a champion and I can run across whole zones quickly. What’s not to like?

Most PvE content in this game can be solo’d in a golem suit or while transformed as a moa. PvE is inconsequential in regards to the performance and viability of this class.

roachsrealm.9284:

what’s everyone complaining about? I’m loving my necro and I’m not having any problems enjoying the game. I can solo anything but a champion and I can run across whole zones quickly. What’s not to like?

Solo PvE is not among my concerns for Necromancer. There are some aspects of solo PvE area that certain builds can have a tough time with (conditions builds attacking structures, minion AI, flesh golem underwater, etc), but overall it tends to be acceptably balanced and interesting.

PvP serves quite well to highlight the Necromancer’s deficiencies. That’s the area where many are really looking for some improvements. You can finagle some wins with a Necromancer, but you’re relying more on the inexperience and ineptitude of your opponents rather than the robustness of the Necro, and other classes would have fulfilled that role better.

I was looking at the patch notes and thought it was very odd that they did nothing to the necro. They even fixed the Ranger pet AI. I guess the necro’s pets are undead , so they are stupid and like to watch use get killed with out doing anything.
+1 terok7315 so true

Dunno, I usually dominate tPVP. Playing bunker necro.

roachsrealm.9284:

what’s everyone complaining about? I’m loving my necro and I’m not having any problems enjoying the game. I can solo anything but a champion and I can run across whole zones quickly. What’s not to like?

Well a lot of us got to 80 and got some perspective on the other professions, such as this:

So this is what happened.

You would not notice much of this if you only did world pve though.

Gongke.8576:

Here’s your red post. Sheesh. The game hasn’t been out for three weeks yet, it’s far too early to be doing this amount of complaining. Have some patience, and enjoy what’s good.

Lets follow the trend

’’It’s only the first beta guys sheesh they are changing stuff everyday.‘’
’’ It’s only the second beta I’m sure everything will get fixed before launch.‘’
’’The game hasn’t even launched yet it’s still BETA which means things are changed or finalized yet..
‘’ The game has only been out for 1 week there are a lot of problems they are trying to address give them time’’.

Inb4
‘’ The game is only a month old there are important bugs and class balances they are addressing give them time geez’’

huge LOL to poster above

Couldnt of been more sarcastic myself . . . oh but then again, the other professions that are close to polished may aswell be worked on just a tad bit more making life even more enjoyable for necro’s