Weakness buff. Hurts necros more than helps

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I have a bit of a fear, that is that Weakness being buffed is supposed to be a big Necro buff, and its something people are banking off of. My concern is will other classes who already have their niches and in some cases are already considered too powerful, who ALSO have easier/better access to weakness just be getting more of a boost than the necro/classes who need it more?

Thieves have it baked into their auto attack with sword which is of the most popular builds currently and able to keep it up near 100% of the time, even allowing breaks of not using 1.

Rangers Axe 3 applies a 10 second CD 10 second Weakness, which is also a primary choice for rangers, and bunker rangers do NOT need more mitigation…

Chaos storm can add a wide aoe Weakness

Necromancers are forced to rely on combo fields which others can do/benefit from too, or offhand dagger which a. isn’t always the most suitable choice for a power necro, or we have to rely on a 30 point trait into curses to get them on crit.. (25% on a critical).

I just fear this “Buff” to help the survivability for a non-avoidance class is going to fall nothing short of a bigger buff to those who already have a lot of avoidance/mobility/vigor etc.

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Posted by: Iceflame.5024

Iceflame.5024

The fact is that the thread was started in the sPVP forums and it was discussing weakness in general so it’s not really aimed specifically at necro. Was kind of a discussion of it only affecting non crit hits which is a very weird design and didn’t really have that much effectiveness in that regard.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Many people are hoping that the new Weakness is supposed to be a buff to our survivability, which it may but I fear it’s going to also make those who are stronger already even more strong.

I believe Weakness being a Necro buff started with SotG.

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Posted by: Iceflame.5024

Iceflame.5024

Think it was mentioned in a “Discussion about necro->mentioning that weakness is going to get a rework too” way. Was just a reminder that it affects our class and going to be sort of a boost. In the end the weakness buff is a general change for the whole game even if we might be the class with lots of weakness applications. Don’t think its gonna change anything for all the condimancers, supposedly it will punish crits so all the crit builds are going to have a harder time.

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Posted by: cuge.5398

cuge.5398

Could you post here the source link to any talk about a weakness boost ?

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Think it was mentioned in a “Discussion about necro->mentioning that weakness is going to get a rework too” way. Was just a reminder that it affects our class and going to be sort of a boost. In the end the weakness buff is a general change for the whole game even if we might be the class with lots of weakness applications. Don’t think its gonna change anything for all the condimancers, supposedly it will punish crits so all the crit builds are going to have a harder time.

Hm, my main point was that the buff will better buff specs that don’t need it rather than those who need it most. I don’t disagree it’ll be more useful against a wide-spread amount of people.

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Posted by: Pendragon.8735

Pendragon.8735

Don’t think its gonna change anything for all the condimancers, supposedly it will punish crits so all the crit builds are going to have a harder time.

Just another boost for carrion over rabid.

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Posted by: Bryker.5719

Bryker.5719

Just another boost for carrion over rabid.

If the buff to weakness doesn’t actually reduce crit chance but dmg done by crits then it won’t really make a difference to rabid builds at all.

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Pendragon.8735

Just another boost for carrion over rabid.

If the buff to weakness doesn’t actually reduce crit chance but dmg done by crits then it won’t really make a difference to rabid builds at all.

It won’t be massive, probably 5 or 10% of your damage in a high crit% build, but its still a negative.

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Posted by: Bryker.5719

Bryker.5719

Weakness as it is right now hurts Carrion builds more than Rabid anyway. As long as rabid still gets the crits to proc Sigil of Earth and Barbed Precision then losing 5-10% off the direct dmg won’t be much of a nerf.
Edit: Considering how much of a buff it will be for us overall I wouldn’t even call it a nerf.

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