Guild Wars 2

After all this time of chilling darkness being in the game.. they add a 5 second internal cooldown so well of darkness is even more worthless just lol

Indirect nerf to plague aswell i guess.

I dont even understand why Chill is the trait they nerf? Why is it always a necromancer related target.

They also:

Chill condition now stacks to a maximum of 5.

So you know, have to nerf the reaper before it even comes out?

Probably because they made Chill a stackable condition with this patch. Without an ICD WOD would probably cap out the stacks pretty quickly.

EDIT: Also, I don’t think Necromancer or Reaper are suffering any serious nerfs with Chill being stackable… We already have the most access to Chill and are going to be getting more access to it with Reaper including a trait that will make Chill a damaging condition. I’m honestly not concerned.

It’s a nerf to my cele build and future reaper users and it’s probably not per target so yeah there are still things they can nerf :/

You can only do five stacks of chill now…
I never heard one person complain about chill.

Basically they did the stacking intensity change to buff the condi reaper build (the frostbite trait or whatever its called) but that indirectly nerfs other reaper builds twice over. Chill stacking intensity means surely the overall chill uptime duration will be reduced. On top of that well of darkness cant be used for reaper builds for this i guess.. they shouldve atleast reduced the cooldown.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Probably because they made Chill a stackable condition with this patch. Without an ICD WOD would probably cap out the stacks pretty quickly.

EDIT: Also, I don’t think Necromancer or Reaper are suffering any serious nerfs with Chill being stackable… We already have the most access to Chill and are going to be getting more access to it with Reaper including a trait that will make Chill a damaging condition. I’m honestly not concerned.

every condition skill stacks even one with intensity. Meaning we can only load five chill abilities at a time which is completely stupid considering a reaper can cap that by using one trait, a sigil and one chill inducing ability.

Chill has always been stackable in duration. They just nerfed the max to 5 instead of some unknown number (probably 9, like boons).

But yeah, Chilling Darkness? Never going to be taken now. It was only good with the pulsing blinds, and now we only get to apply it to one target, once.

So, Curses now has only one Adept tier trait.

Okay I know its always been stackable. But they changed it to only stack to five. Thats my complaint.

I see this, coupled with the Chilling darkness change, coupled with the change to movement impairing affects not affecting leaps ect as one big nerf.

Why does it seem like we are nerfing the reaper prior to its release? No one was complaining about chill.

Skills that are soo bad that they never attract the attention or use of top players never get feedback & never get love. They just Sit there useless getting worse and worse as power creep gets added to the game.

This also explains necromancer axe

Wait wait, I thought this was changing chill to stack intensity? Or are you saying the duration stacking is capped at 5?

Zetsumei.4975:

Wait wait, I thought this was changing chill to stack intensity? Or are you saying the duration stacking is capped at 5?

Duration stacking is capped at 5 stacks.

Maybe Well of darkness should get some damage so it isn’t completely pointless. If it did well of corruption level damage maybe players would take it.

As it sits, it is just a slightly bigger version of a spammable thief skill on a long cool down.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Zetsumei.4975:

Wait wait, I thought this was changing chill to stack intensity? Or are you saying the duration stacking is capped at 5?

Duration stacking is capped at 5 stacks.

That just makes me think the chilling darkness nerf was that much more kittened

The only justification for this is if Deathly Chill makes it so chill does the same or more damage as burn. But then I’d question why the 5 stack cap.

Correct me if I am wrong, but, I need clarification here. If, you took Bitter chill, which adds a stack of vulnerability to a target when you chill, and they just capped to five stacks.

Does this not vicariously also nerf this part of Bitter chill as well?

You see I ran a very solid build that used sigils to keep the chill stacks up all the time and high.. as well as the Bitter chill trait to keep vulnerability high as well.

So I can’t test it right now.. but this would mean that I can only put five stacks of vulnerability on at one time.

It does effectively nerf their synergy yes.

Aaaaand this is a text book example of the un balance team clearly NOT thinking things through, when it’s the most important aspect of their role. Chilling Darkness was a combination of too hard to balance, too much RNG, and took away from the purity of wells.

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They should really reduce the cooldown of well of darkness now..

Well of Darkness would literally need to be a 20-25 second cd for it to be worth it now. Even with the old chilling darkness it needed to be brought down to like 30 seconds.

The previewed reaper greatsword had a #4 skill with damage + pulsing blind + pulsing cripple on 25 second cooldown.

Thats balanced.

Well of darkness needs to be better than that in its utility.

nekretaal.6485:

The previewed reaper greatsword had a #4 skill with damage + pulsing blind + pulsing cripple on 25 second cooldown.

Thats balanced.

Well of darkness needs to be better than that in its utility.

I honestly think because of that skill they should just remove well of darkness and replace it with a new well. I know people who have that aoe blind, but having skills that effectively do the same thing is kind of pointless.

nekretaal.6485:

The previewed reaper greatsword had a #4 skill with damage + pulsing blind + pulsing cripple on 25 second cooldown.

Thats balanced.

Well of darkness needs to be better than that in its utility.

Lol that’s a good point

You can delete this well from your utilites now as without Chilling Darkness it is worthless.