What am I supposed to do against Guardians?

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Posted by: Crowley.8761

Crowley.8761

I am out of ideas here… Their cleanse, their direct damage, their healing, their cc, their immunities… I can transfer their burn back on them but it’s instacleansed anyway or returned to me if it’s not blocked. What am I supposed to do?

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

Rolisteel.1375

Reroll guardian maybe. You are necro you put marks corrupt some boons try run away from enemy but fail and die repeat. thats your job in this game solo q if you are playing alone. Sounds fun and balanced right? which also doesnt worth anything if you get so lame players in solo q that they cant even focus down boon corrupted enemy. So the class sometimes really feels trash too much cc and interrupt spam and stuns knockbacks pulls etc etc. and other stuff like that totally trash this class while also having slow skill cast times

Don’t 1v1 guards on conquest its a waste of time even if you kill them after 3-4mins fight on condi necro lol.

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

Necro doesn’t have tools to compete in PvP. Pick another class, you chose…. poorly.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

what you do is you bring a support tempest friend and stick to him, then you should be fine and make impact.

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Posted by: Crowley.8761

Crowley.8761

what you do is you bring a support tempest friend and stick to him, then you should be fine and make impact.

Isn’t that kinda universal for every class though…? “Oh you need to be two and one of those two has to be a support” doesn’t seem all that fair to me.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

While having friendly support is always nice, Necromancer relies on external help/healing more than other classes in PvP. Lonely Necro is basically a free kill for any Thief, Revenant and won’t disengage in time to reset.

Your job is putting pressure in teamfights, not 1v1ing. Sometimes you will be forced to 1v1, but you should avoid it, that’s not Necro’s role really. One of the dumbest things you can do at the start of the game is go and cap close if you see that the other team has multiple mobile burst DPSes like Thief and Revenant.

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Posted by: Zero Solstice.9754

Zero Solstice.9754

You kill Guardians by gassing them of what matters, and abusing unblockable where it matters. Kite around the opponent, use Shroud to mitigate heavier burst damage and Stability to protect yourself from pull. When they pop Shield of Courage, simply disengage and LoS until it’s down and poke at them with Staff marks, which are unblockable anyway. The important thing is to try to squeeze value from the opponent blowing cooldowns, while maximizing your sustain. For example, you can pretty easily completely nullify their Purification in a number of situations if you pay attention, and if you don’t trigger it then they’re down almost 10k healing over you.

Important to mention though: If you’re playing the Metabattle build because you don’t feel like putting together a build that’s actually capable of sustaining in fights, and you’re not with your team, then you’re going to have a bad time.

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Posted by: Silv.9207

Silv.9207

If the enemy guardian is barely decent, you will die, without hope and without mercy. They have high mobility (leap and teleport) to chase you and can inflict huge damage. Your unblockable skills are all on the staff marks, that is the worst damage weapon ever designed, then not even that can truly help you (unless he’s a burn guardian and you send back his burn staks, but no one use burn guardians in spvp now).

if you can, avoid every 1v1. leave the point, let the enemy have it if necessary, hold it only if you see a friend come to help you. You have to team fight and hide from the enemy.

if you want to win a 1v1, change class.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

I use Corrosive Poison Cloud. Works pretty well.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

Bring CPC and/or well of corruption, easy kills.
Be ready to stunbreak when they try to pull you into traps, drop marks when they block to ruin their day. etc

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/“Nothing_Can_Save_You!”

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Posted by: steelheart.7386

steelheart.7386

You shouldn’t be intentionally trying to 1v1 versus anything on a Necro. You are a team fight class. Almost any class can beat a necro 1v1 if the player is as skilled as you are. You are wearing a dress and need time to build up lifeforce and have very little stability. Conversely a well played necro is way more valuable in a team fight then any current Guardian build even if you can’t beat a guardian 1v1.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

If its burn guardian then transfer the burns when it gets to about 5. Dont do it too early though. Suffer, staff 4 and plague signet work for this. Suffer sometimes doesnt give the burn which sucks.

If its trap dps guardian then its a hard match up. If you can daze them and stop them doing their leap and cleanse then you can win but it is hard. Unblockable marks obviously helps alot but then again so does chill of death trait.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

You better wait till those burns are 18+ and I’m over 1/2 dead. Otherwise I’ll clear it and continue killing you.

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Posted by: FrostDraco.8306

FrostDraco.8306

I find its easy to deal with guards if you pressure them from ranged and avoid being pulled into a trap fest. They normally cant respond very well with the pressure staff or axe can deal if they arent in melee range.

Kiting them is huge, even if you have to run circles around them.

Rise! and minions work well against them as well as they trigger traps. Also a well pre-placed flesh wurm is an extremely easy out if you screw up and get yanked into a burst combo.

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Posted by: Prince Vingador.8067

Prince Vingador.8067

Best advise i can give u is, dont 1v1 guard .
First because u cant stand on the cap with him , that means u need to give up the cap, second it will take u long time to kill that guard IF U EVEN CAN KILL IT, so its really not worth it.

Now this all depends of whats your buil , whats his build, how close u are from 500, how much dps u can take to hold those extra seconds, or how vital it is to kill him or u not dying.

But generaly u shouldnt go looking to 1v1 any 1 as a necro, because it takes time and atm necro his not great at 1v1s, better to try to be in team fights.

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Posted by: HeadCrowned.6834

HeadCrowned.6834

Pick ‘’Nothing Can Save You’’. EZ.

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Posted by: Kumouta.4985

Kumouta.4985

Flesh wurm. you gotta gtfo. you won’t be able to beat a guardian in a small space no matter how hard you try or what build you have unless he’s a complete noob.
Do bring corrosive poison cloud so he can’t just use his ranged gravedigger (bow) on you.

I can apply over 3 stacks of bleeding.

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

If you can Alt-F4 before they lay any damage on you, they don’t get credit for killing you.

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