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What viable spvp builds are out there?
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I am not a big time Spvper but I believe even after the patch that Dhuumfire condition spec(30/20/0/0/20) is still the best condition build out there.
Minions is also viable(perhaps not in upper tier), but it is a great spec to hold home point. 20/0/30/20/0 and 20/0/20/30/0 both work but I prefer the Blood version for the incredible condition removal.
Like Stx said, the two main versions of MM are pretty solid, and are plenty viable in high tier yoloQ/team queues (just maybe not real tournaments). Clerics 20/0/30/20/0 just got some pretty big buffs in the last patch, actually, because of the new conversions.
lol, i tried out the mm build again, nothing special..
first reaction i got
“mm noob”
“$#%% off to hotjoin”
Thanks for the build guys..
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Not sure what to say. MM is one of our best builds atm, and if people calling it a noob build turns you off from it, then you must also hate Warriors, Spirit Rangers, and pretty much every Bunker build…
Not sure what to say. MM is one of our best builds atm, and if people calling it a noob build turns you off from it, then you must also hate Warriors, Spirit Rangers, and pretty much every Bunker build…
Actually i meant thanks as in Thanks!
Forgot the smiley on the end for emphasis… and i maybe should ’ve said it was the opponent syaing it..
again .. Thanks!
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Not sure what to say. MM is one of our best builds atm, and if people calling it a noob build turns you off from it, then you must also hate Warriors, Spirit Rangers, and pretty much every Bunker build…
Actually i meant thanks as in Thanks!
Forgot the smiley on the end for emphasis… and i maybe should ’ve said it was the opponent syaing it..again .. Thanks!
My bad! Lol. My sarcasm sensor failed me hard.
Minions will get a lot of QQ, and it is glorious. Make sure you practice one combo: Rigor Mortis, Charge, Dagger 3, DS 5, DS 3, DS 2, WH 4. In that order. Mix in damage when you don’t need to be directly casting them already, you’ll learn the timing. It should be somewhere between 12 and 15s of continuous CC, and it is every bit as fun as it sounds.
Necros are doomed for spvp.
Many competitive PvP teams still run Necros. You can say Necros are doomed when Zombify, Posi, and all the other high tier necros can no longer find spots on a team (hint: it hasn’t happened yet).
I’ve been feeling a little subpar on a Condi build lately so I tried MM. Dag/Warhorn+Staff SoldierAmy Rock Doge 20/0/20/30/0, I kind of felt it could’ve been optimized more and I’m kind of glad to see the skeleton was posted here. I have been pretty satisfied with MM in TPvP I think the “MM Noob GTFO” comment is slightly out of place. The only time I’ve experienced that was on Skyhammer once the other team had 3 engis all doing nothing but trying to Magnet cheese the entire match and they raged about a “Cheesy MM AI no skill build”.
I found it’s pretty beast in small fights (1v1, 1v2, 2v1, 2v2) and when you force people to fight near your minions, especially when you wait to land some good immobilize/CC chains. It starts to feel weak when you start entering bigger team fights or if you get hit hard by 3 guardians/warriors or just in general a ton of durable bodied AoE.
PVT-MM dagger/horn my fav. Much strong, many minions, very necro, wow.
Condi necros literally can’t even scratch me.
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i dont think MM is viable. dhuum/terror is the only viable build and thats IF you have someone to peel for you.
It starts to feel weak when you start entering bigger team fights or if you get hit hard by 3 guardians/warriors or just in general a ton of durable bodied AoE.
I don’t think lot of classes/build will feel fine when 3 guardians/warriors hit them.
MM is great right now if you’re good with the combo Bhawb mentioned above. Still have tough fights with heavy CC builds, but it’s not so bad since last patch. Terror builds are great too, especially if you’re good at fear juggling.
There is the only power build I believe is viable. Unlike the MM builds it isn’t as self sufficient. Not to say MM is cheese, but this definitely has a steeper learning curve than either of those builds or the only condi build (30/20/0/0/20).
It is better suited to a team environment but isn’t a build that must be “built around”. There have and probably will always be people who don’t believe power necro is viable but I can guarantee you it is when played correctly. This is one of the few builds actually buffed by spectral changes while dodging all other nerfs. With reduction of well CDs, addition of tainted shackles, and stackable immobilizes the burst with this build is much more reliable than it was even when its variance was used in launch competitive play (30/30/10/0/0)
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