Guild Wars 2

I’d like to start off by saying thank you to the community in saving me a lot of time and rage and have (like most) decided to re-roll. Apparently I don’t know how to play my necro as john has said, and while I do agree we will have to see how we fair once all the bugs are ironed out, who knows when that will be? Also, who’s to say other Profs won’t be even more op when their bugs are ironed out.

Anyways tons of threads on this anyways, just wondering what you all have rolled until things change. I’m greatly enjoying my support (elixer throwing) alchemist engineer. Sad thing is, I’m specced into vit and healing and do on par damage as my 40 nec at 20. Not to mention dem grenades in WvWvW.
Thanks John… For showing me engineer!

Engineer is great for WvW since you can spam endless high damage AoE with a couple of debuffs at 1500 range using grenades, as well as strong support if needed.

Ranger is also very strong (insane single target damage using either bow at 1200 or 1500 range as well as great AoE using Longbow 5 (Barrage), especially if you combine it with your Zephyr (Quickness) utility). Plus, you can actually control your pets on a Ranger and some nice support (Condition Removal, buff spirits).

Ranger. Any role a necro fills, another profession can do it better.

Necro crushes Ranger in AoE damage and control.

Necro crushes Ranger in AoE damage and control.

Nope, Necro is only useful for applying Weakness and Blind using Plague and Enfeebling Blood. Damage-wise it’s mathematically impossible to come even remotely close to Rangers, both single target and AoE.

Yah, they definitely don’t apply poison or chill either, and its not like they could do anything like copying all conditions on a target to everyone else in range, and certainly not on something absurd like a 15s cooldown.

Barrage is nice, but on a long CD. Axes are ok for AoE. But for a Necro… staff, wells, epidemic, and the aoe’s of scepter/dagger are just superior for AoE damage. WoD with chilling darkness is also stronger AoE control than anything Rangers have as well.

I went ranger… not very found about the pet, but still MUCH better than the necro`s r******d pets.

I did warrior, my close alternative was going to be ranger or thief. So far, liking the warrior.

Mainly went warrior because of high burst dps which the necro lacks completely.

d/d elementalist. Not the best choice either, but at least it’s more fun.

@RogeWilko – Necromancers do not have pets in Guild Wars 2. They have minions they are not the same.

I think that is one of the issues with the Necromancer class, people do not realize that pets and minions are not the same thing.

Minions have a mind of their own (AI)
Pets are given commands from their master.

Tilron.2738:

@RogeWilko – Necromancers do not have pets in Guild Wars 2. They have minions they are not the same.

I think that is one of the issues with the Necromancer class, people do not realize that pets and minions are not the same thing.

Minions have a mind of their own (AI)
Pets are given commands from their master.

you mean Minions SHOULD have a mind of their own.

Thief. I hate thieves, so I’m going to make a really good one and abuse it as much as I can. Who knows, maybe I’ll help to bring the glorious day of thieves nerfing a little bit sooner.

Rerolled from a level 45 mesmer and 45 engineer to Necromancer which is now 22. This is SO much more fun

I have had my issues witht the necromancer, but if you play smart you can still do well wiht it.
Today i was playing WvW and and got 2 guys on me (i play a conditionmancer with signets and epidemic) I couldnt burst them down, but witht he help of DS and lich form i eventualy killed them.
This gave me new hope for the necromancer. It is still subpar to many other classes in many situations, but you can kill people. I have also tried to re-roll but i love my necro to much.

Halo.8976:

Thief. I hate thieves, so I’m going to make a really good one and abuse it as much as I can. Who knows, maybe I’ll help to bring the glorious day of thieves nerfing a little bit sooner.

I like your style, Halo. I’m also primarily focusing on Thief as my next main profession. So far I’m enjoying their niche as an agile scout and skirmisher.

I have a Ranger, Warrior, Guardian, and Mesmer all slowly coming along as well just in case the Thief gets nerfed; however, experience seems to show that Guild Wars 2 favors the strong and neglects the weak.

Mesmer and I recommend it to everybody, it’s really fun and imo clearly fotm. PVE it’s not its strongest point, but in pvp there’s no class atm that can, well almost literally, touch you.

Also I’ve noticed that there’s some matches in which team only has thieves, warriors and mesmers.

I still Necro for PvE.

But, thief for sPvP… and let me tell you, the grass is greener.

Didn’t even go a cheese build (Stealth/Backstab).

I also rerolled Mesmer and it is a lot of fun. Started off feeling a bit squishy but each time I got a new utility skill I just felt noticeably more powerful.

Mesmer, Guardian and Engineer, really no contest.

@Tilron

Just because you only play PvE, WvW, and dungeons, doesn’t mean everything else doesn’t exist.

I know i’m just nibbling the bait, but eh, whatever. I’ll just play the spongebob route, ride the hook all the way to the top and jump off.

I think he’s a thief. Or ranger. Maybe, both.

@Tilron Yes I am clearly smarter, Per your logic disagreeing with you means trolling.

1. This makes you seem like massive nab
2. I think that none of us wants to see the necro being forced to use pets to be successfull.

@They Are hashes – Show me where I said Necros are fine, L2P. Nope, more crap and lies.

Spvp and Tpvp are nothing, they are battleground PvP. I can play battleground PvP in every other MMO on the planet. I play GW2 for PvE and WvW. Some might play for the Spvp and Tpvp modes but why should they get to decide how the class works and does not work? Why should they be the only voice that gets to chime in on changes to a class that will effect others outisde of those modes?

How does stating what I like and dislike about the Necromancer class make me a troll? Oh right, I disagree with you, so I am a troll. I get it.

Once they fix the Minion bugs and the few trait points that are not working correctly, we can revisit how the class works and what needs to be changed. The fact is there are other builds that do just fine right now, just because they are not what you want, does not change the fact they are working fine right now.

Sure do Necromancers need some loving but they are not as bad as you and others make them out to be at all. They are useful, they have their role and good players wil do just fine with the current Necromancer profession.

I am far from the only Necromancer that likes the profession minus the few bugs and minion issues.

The thing is and most people will not understand this, not even half of the player base will ever visit these forums and even less than that will ever post.

So the few that are posting on these forums are the vocial minority and normally they ruin classes for the rest of us.

I have seen it in other games, the PVP arena crowd cries and cries and gets a class nerfed or buffed which screws it up for those of us that do not care about PvP arena’s.

Yep. Sounds pretty much like a thief for me.

Bananaheli.8501:

@Tilron Yes I am clearly smarter, Per your logic disagreeing with you means trolling.

1. This makes you seem like massive nab
2. I think that none of us wants to see the necro being forced to use pets to be successfull.

1. Where did I say they were trolling? I have been called the troll, might want to learn to read. You are not smarter clearly. I am a troll because I disagree Necromancers are useless profession and people should re roll away from them.

2. Look through the post on this form, clearly more people want the necromancer to rely on minions. Minions need to be fixed, they are currently buggy and the traits for them are buggy as well but that does not change the fact that their are currently other workable builds that people can use right now and be successful.

What I do not want to happen is for the profession to be changed away from the current setup. I want to see the things that are not working fixed but I do not want to see the overall profession change.

Some people are even suggesting that DS be changed and turn into something else. NO. That is not acceptable.

Zeron.4017:

@Tilron

Just because you only play PvE, WvW, and dungeons, doesn’t mean everything else doesn’t exist.

I know i’m just nibbling the bait, but eh, whatever. I’ll just play the spongebob route, ride the hook all the way to the top and jump off.

No, it does not mean they do not exist but to change the class based on a single mode is plan stupid and silly.

I have seen way to many times where the vocal minority on the forums getting certian classes buffed or nerfed solo based on PVP arena’s and I do not want to see that happen with one of the best designed Necromancer classes I have ever played. (Sure the bugs need to be fixed but the overall feel and design of the Necro is fine IMO and I do not want that to change.)

Halo.8976:

I think he’s a thief. Or ranger. Maybe, both.

Tilron (Boris Pass)
80 Norm Necromancer.

Come say hello if you want. I have only a Necromancer on my account.

You might be a necro as a character, but you always will stay thief by your mind

Halo.8976:

You might be a necro as a character, but you always will stay thief by your mind

This makes zero sense at all. How am I a thief in my mind if I play a Necromancer and think I am playing a life stealing Necromancer character?

k, we get it, when you play necro it’s unbeatable and awesome killing machine! How about you go play that necro, you know, maybe make a video and be inspiration to all struggling necros.

See! Life stealing necro! You’re a thief indeed.

As for us, we want to use something else, not only life stealing which I’m sure has some bugs too. But we can’t. The class is broken. If you deny it, you even more thief than I thought.

@ Tilron kitten
I would reroll a guardian and thief or mesmer. To try new play styles.

I haven’t re-rolled in fact if I didn’t read the forums and see the massive amount of moaning I would have happily continued on not even knowing some people were having issues.

@They are hashes – Hard mode? A PvP mini game is hard mode now? Good god get a clue.

Spvp and Tpvp are mini games, why should be balance the classes based on a mini game?

Guild Wars 2 is a PvE game first and for most. Spvp and Tpvp are mini games are I am willing to bet that the majority of players will never touch Tpvp and yet you think that the game should be balanced around a mini game that not everyone is going to even play?

I am selfish because I currently like the Necromancer profession and do not want the vocial minority to change it? yes great logic you have. Yes you are the voical minority, the majority of players do not visit the forums nor post on the forums, this has been proven fact over and over again.

So again, my goal is to make sure that the vocial minority does not change the profession for their own selfish needs but instead leave the class alone and fix the things that needs to be fixed. I have seen it in pass games, the arena pvp players get classes nerfed/buffed based on their mini games and messes up the class for everyone else.

On Topic. I was planning on rolling a Warrior but I see way to many of them, so not sure what my next class is going to be.

Tilron.2738:

Guild Wars 2 is a PvE game first and for most.

Which is EXACTLY why they spent so much time, effort, sweat, blood, and probably tears, making classes balanced by the spvp and tpvp in betas. It is also why they made any pvp in the first place. It is also exactly why they boast their competitive playing on their website, and on the lovely case…because it is a mini-game.
(Sarcasm switched to OFF mode now)

started a mesmer, didn’t realize how fun they are!

warrior and loving every minute of it

it feels great enjoying the game at last

This thread is off-topic for this subforum. The necromancer subforum is for discussion of the necromancer profession, not to discuss what other professions you will be playing instead of necromancer.