Guild Wars 2

So I was thinking about GW1 Necromancer today and the flavor that he had in regard to his profession. This GW2 Necromancer feels more like a Warlock than anything else. I don’t get the Death Magic vibe anymore.

Anyone else feel this way? What does GW2 need to do to give Necromancers the vibe it used to have? Who is this guy?

GW2’s necro has similar themes but wasn’t really meant to be the same as GW1 Necro.

GW1 Necromancer had lots of hexes.
Hexes were removed in GW2. Torment is probably the closest thing to a GW1 hex.
So now it’s conditions, which feel closer to… well, GW1 conditions.
Necro had those too but eh.

Minion Master was about snowballing a huge army over an area in GW1 and spamming heals, possibly casting Death Nova on them to turn them into walking bombs.
The massive armies were replaced with a smaller group of Minions with each having a skill you can activate.
It’s intended to feel more tactical and involve no slow army building.

Necromancer of GW2 is intended to be a slow, hard-to-kill Profession who makes everyone in their range suffer and slowly die.
An attrition Profession!
They are also meant to be great at preventing people from running away.

Funnily enough they have OP offensive power and too weak defensive powers atm.
Opposite of their intended design.
They were hideously overpowered tanks and got their defenses over nerfed by a ton pre-launch.

GW1’s Necro was so dependent on Hexes and/or huge armies of Minions that they just don’t directly translate into GW2’s mechanics.

Blood Magic just doesn’t translate over as well because in GW1 you usually didn’t/couldn’t carry a self-heal.
Running a Blood Magic build in say… Jade Quarry allowed you to actually keep your health up by draining massive amounts of health from your opponents.
I think this is what inspired GW2 Necro’s design the most.

Thing is in GW2 every Necro has a self-heal, so the Life Leeching can’t be anywhere near as powerful as it was in GW1.
Also your opponents have a self-heals as well so dealing damage slowly is usually a good way to lose.

I can kill necro in pvt gear in 3 hits. There is no necro spec that lets you do that to even the squishiest specs w/o getting massively lucky having full lf and having opponent stand still. Oh soooo overpowered… yeah… sure… Keep on preaching that.

HiSaZuL.2843:

I can kill necro in pvt gear in 3 hits. There is no necro spec that lets you do that to even the squishiest specs w/o getting massively lucky having full lf and having opponent stand still. Oh soooo overpowered… yeah… sure… Keep on preaching that.

What good necro runs PVT gear?

HiSaZuL.2843:

I can kill necro in pvt gear in 3 hits. There is no necro spec that lets you do that to even the squishiest specs w/o getting massively lucky having full lf and having opponent stand still. Oh soooo overpowered… yeah… sure… Keep on preaching that.

That just enforces my point about Necros now being terribly weak defensively due to being nearly invincible before launch in Beta 2.

Whack-a-mole balancing.

necromancers are not exactly Overpowered. but they are extremely close. lets say they gave us a boost in defense and left our offense as is. then we would be Overpowered. necromancers are most likely getting some slight nerfs next patch i think. i hope that it wont be to drastic of nerfs and that they split the nerfs between pve/wvw/pvp this time around…. especially after what they just did to rangers…

GiggleFairy.3807:

necromancers are not exactly Overpowered. but they are extremely close. lets say they gave us a boost in defense and left our offense as is. then we would be Overpowered. necromancers are most likely getting some slight nerfs next patch i think. i hope that it wont be to drastic of nerfs and that they split the nerfs between pve/wvw/pvp this time around…. especially after what they just did to rangers…

Judging by the latest State of The Game their offensive power is getting nerfed somehow (Terror nerf?) and their Life Force generation is getting buffed more.

Jonathan Sharp said you pretty much need Spectral skills to use Death Shroud a lot now, and they want every Necro to use it more, not just limited to spectral.

Also possibly some heals will go partially through Death Shroud in the future.
Maybe just Regeneration?
However that was stated as one big reason Necro used to be OP: The Tank Necros could heal through DS.

So I guess until next patch we can expect every post on this forum to be about the last patch.