Guild Wars 2

Will Soul Reaping be elite specialization in HOT?
I just cant get one thing… They promised to us new DS mechanics(or unique mechanics that will replace DS) with new specialization, right? So how Soul Reaping will work with new Elite Specialization at the same time if new mechanics will replace old one on choose?

Or new specialization will be just like a booster for DS(+ access to new skills and weapon) and kinda must have?

Our current 5 “specializations” are core specializations, our elite specialization will be something brand new we haven’t seen yet.

And no, they have only suggested that we will have new ways to use Life Force, and people are taking this to mean all kinds of things.

Bhawb.7408:

Our current 5 “specializations” are core specializations, our elite specialization will be something brand new we haven’t seen yet.

And no, they have only suggested that we will have new ways to use Life Force, and people are taking this to mean all kinds of things.

New ways that will not replace old? If yes it will be kinda must have… Its better to make our Soul Reaping spec as Elite and leave slot with golden frame for Elite Specs only but 2 other slots for our 4 core specialisations and same for other classes… But Ideal would be to give us to choose 6 minor + 2 adept + 2 master + 2 grandmaster traits from any of our 4 core specializations + 1 of 2(Soul Reaping and new one) elite specialization into golden slot. But if Soul Reaping still be core it will be bad design IMO…

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Captain Unusual.9163:

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WAIT WHAT?!?!111

The title doesn’t make sense… We need a DS/LF rework anyway.

well. What is the wording on the skills in Soul reaping? and what do all the current traits say outside of Soul reaping? This can be a clue. Though we might know next week.

tuman.6593:

New ways that will not replace old? If yes it will be kinda must have… Its better to make our Soul Reaping spec as Elite and leave slot with golden frame for Elite Specs only but 2 other slots for our 4 core specialisations and same for other classes… But Ideal would be to give us to choose 6 minor + 2 adept + 2 master + 2 grandmaster traits from any of our 4 core specializations + 1 of 2(Soul Reaping and new one) elite specialization into golden slot. But if Soul Reaping still be core it will be bad design IMO…

It won’t necessarily be must have because to get the specialization you need to give up one of your three trait lines. You can only have 3 lines, and of those lines, you can have 1 elite specialization. So if your build relies on things outside the elite spec, then it won’t be must have. The only builds I see becoming reliant on it are GS or whatever new skills we get based builds.

Lily.1935:

well. What is the wording on the skills in Soul reaping? and what do all the current traits say outside of Soul reaping? This can be a clue. Though we might know next week.

A lot of traits would be made useless by not having Death Shroud at all. For example, Deathly Perception, Vital Persistence, Speed of Shadows, Transfusion, all on-entry/exit traits, Unholy Martyr, Reaper’s Might, Death Shiver, Furious Demise, Path of Corruption, Unholy Sanctuary, Armored Shroud, Unyielding Blast.

In fact, every tree has at least a few traits that relate directly to Death Shroud or skills in Death Shroud. Some of these could technically be changed, but I find it really unlikely to not have some kind of Death Shroud with the specialization. Chances are it will be different skills, a different type of shroud, or just different ways to spend LF, because with how many traits they’d have to change its almost a new profession.

Bhawb.7408:

tuman.6593:

New ways that will not replace old? If yes it will be kinda must have… Its better to make our Soul Reaping spec as Elite and leave slot with golden frame for Elite Specs only but 2 other slots for our 4 core specialisations and same for other classes… But Ideal would be to give us to choose 6 minor + 2 adept + 2 master + 2 grandmaster traits from any of our 4 core specializations + 1 of 2(Soul Reaping and new one) elite specialization into golden slot. But if Soul Reaping still be core it will be bad design IMO…

It won’t necessarily be must have because to get the specialization you need to give up one of your three trait lines. You can only have 3 lines, and of those lines, you can have 1 elite specialization. So if your build relies on things outside the elite spec, then it won’t be must have. The only builds I see becoming reliant on it are GS or whatever new skills we get based builds.

Yes but If you abandon new Elite tree you will lose new DS things, new traits, new skills, new weapon and dont got anything instead of it. But if you want to pick new Elite tree you will lose nothing except some traits only. So this option that give us to choose only 1/1 elite specialization on start is kinda wrong design IMHO So the right way should be like I said: 2 slots for 1 of our core trees and 1 slot for elite specializations only(or second variant with 1 slot for elite tree and slots for single traits from any core trees)

If you don’t want the new DS, don’t need the new traits, don’t like GS, etc. then that doesn’t really matter. For example if the new specialization removes DS and you were planning to build an unholy sanctuary spectral bunker, then you really don’t want to lose DS.

Bhawb.7408:

If you don’t want the new DS, don’t need the new traits, don’t like GS, etc. then that doesn’t really matter. For example if the new specialization removes DS and you were planning to build an unholy sanctuary spectral bunker, then you really don’t want to lose DS.

May be, but I still feel it is unfair or … I dont know. And idk why, may be because they give to us only 1 Elite specialization on start and we can choose between old stuff and new one only(and old one is a bit broken you know) but not between few new things.
And I afraid that new elite specialization will be just a booster for our DS mechanics and in current state it will be rly “must have”. I want rly something new from elite tree but I want old DS to be usefull too. But now it feels like Elite tree for the win and old stuff for the weak

Bhawb.7408:

A lot of traits would be made useless by not having Death Shroud at all. For example, Deathly Perception, Vital Persistence, Speed of Shadows, Transfusion, all on-entry/exit traits, Unholy Martyr, Reaper’s Might, Death Shiver, Furious Demise, Path of Corruption, Unholy Sanctuary, Armored Shroud, Unyielding Blast.

In fact, every tree has at least a few traits that relate directly to Death Shroud or skills in Death Shroud. Some of these could technically be changed, but I find it really unlikely to not have some kind of Death Shroud with the specialization. Chances are it will be different skills, a different type of shroud, or just different ways to spend LF, because with how many traits they’d have to change its almost a new profession.

I’m not so much saying that Death Shroud will be removed for the new specialization. In fact I’m partially with you. I’m about 85% certain that we are keeping Death Shroud. But I’m also 90% sure that the skills in Death shroud will change. The other traits you’re talking about? Well, thats actually an easy fix. Make them function with the skills that the new DS gives you. Some might need to be changed a bit but over all it isn’t unreasonable to assume that it could change. Hopefully the change isn’t something really lame like life blast dealing more damage on distant foes rather then close foes..

We won’t be losing death shroud, there are way too many traits that revolve around it. They’ve alluded to getting more F skills, though.

We’ll get a new trait line, greatsword, 6 new skills of which a heal and elite is included, and some new options for life force. Or maybe alternative death shrouds. Who knows right now, but that’s the most we know.

I’m thinking they will add an F2 skills. So go into the DS as normal with F1, or use it’s new mechanic with F2. Similar to how the leaked Warrior looks.