Guild Wars 2

Seems like Berserker (warrior spec) will hard counter condition builds. They’ll get a new F1 skill with a lower cd and will always count as a full adrenaline bar use.
So if they pick cleasing ire from defense line, they’lll be able to remove 3 conditions in a period of less than 10 seconds on top of others conditions cleanses.

Of course, we didn’t see that specialization in action yet, but why shouldn’t we talk about it?

Necromancers aren’t condition users anymore.

Maybe this should be in the engineer or guardian forum.

(sarc)

Not really since this strategy requires 2 trait lines so it is a huge build investment. On top of that you need to generate 50 energy to get 2 cleansing ires off, which is not much diferent. The torch is not a threath either to condi’s either since it means you can’t take warhorn or longbow, which are warriors bigger offenders in terms of cleansing.

So in other words berserker does not counter condi builds more then warrior from what is revealed now.

nekretaal.6485:

Necromancers aren’t condition users anymore.

Maybe this should be in the engineer or guardian forum.

(sarc)

Yeah, i kinda agree with you.
But will it counter any profession’s condition build? That kind of condition removal seems pretty strong and often.
What your thoughts?

nekretaal.6485:

Necromancers aren’t condition users anymore.

Maybe this should be in the engineer or guardian forum.

(sarc)

We still use condi’s extensively we just don’t use it as a source of damage anymore.

Let’s put it this way:

I’m more concerned by the fact that warriors can remove fear every 5 seconds just by weapon swapping (you cant even retarget while taunted) than I am that their cleansing ire will be easier to use (it’s already very easy to use)

War is heavily telegraphed compared to rest of the game(closest to us) will they even hit us? The LB one is no longer AoE as well.

To be fair, we kinda counter a lot of condition builds too lol

I doubt it…

However, I’m getting pretty hyped over the idea of a Celestial Berserker with Sword/Torch and Greatsword.

do we know how cleansing ire will function with the berserker system?

It won’t counter condi builds anymore than necros or shout guards do currently.

TheLastNobody.8319:

do we know how cleansing ire will function with the berserker system?

3 bars become 1 so one burst clears 3 conditions but it would consume zerk state but you need 3 bars to enter it that is how I get it.

Sagat.3285:

TheLastNobody.8319:

do we know how cleansing ire will function with the berserker system?

3 bars become 1 so one burst clears 3 conditions but it would consume zerk state but you need 3 bars to enter it that is how I get it.

I don’t think using F1 ability when you berserker mode will get you out of it. Otherwise would be pointless.

Lynnie.7213:

Sagat.3285:

TheLastNobody.8319:

do we know how cleansing ire will function with the berserker system?

3 bars become 1 so one burst clears 3 conditions but it would consume zerk state but you need 3 bars to enter it that is how I get it.

I don’t think using F1 ability when you berserker mode will get you out of it. Otherwise would be pointless.

I have no idea it does provide benefits like increase attack speed and trigger effects when you enter it I’m only saying that based on how adrenaline works but anyway the burst shouldn’t be the only reason you use it.

I think the biggest issue is that warriors can’t go for the meta build anymore so it’s either the condition spec line or power. As for best condition class….well it ain’t us if that what you’re getting at.

So wait… you didn’t notice the shoutbow warrior’s immense personal and group condition cleansing during the peak of the cele meta push ALL condition build out of the meta?

The only reason condition classes came back in spvp is because of burning, and well dhuumfire wasn’t really enough to save condi necro’s lack of sustained condition pressure.

Oh man, I want to see a condi Berserker vs a Condi Necromancer. No matter who applies the conditions, they’ll end up cleansed by the berserker and no one will accomplish anything.

Well yes it may consume them, but cleansing ire states they need to hit with an attack to cleanse the conditions. So does that mean as long as they are zero, whenever they hit they cleanse? Sorry sorta confused.

TheLastNobody.8319:

Well yes it may consume them, but cleansing ire states they need to hit with an attack to cleanse the conditions. So does that mean as long as they are zero, whenever they hit they cleanse? Sorry sorta confused.

I already saw a couple of warrriors use cleasing ire bow on the ground and condis were cleared. I don’t know if it was a random bug or something. But already happened a couple of times.

Lynnie.7213:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Well yes it may consume them, but cleansing ire states they need to hit with an attack to cleanse the conditions. So does that mean as long as they are zero, whenever they hit they cleanse? Sorry sorta confused.

I already saw a couple of warrriors use cleasing ire bow on the ground and condis were cleared. I don’t know if it was a random bug or something. But already happened a couple of times.

The longbow F1 doesn’t need to hit a target to proc cleansing ire. Not a bug since there’s always a fire field when it lands.

In the end Mallyx will consume all. Doesnt matter if condi war or necro.