bone minion improvement suggestion

bone minion improvement suggestion

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Posted by: Tadsoul.6951

Tadsoul.6951

Right now the Bone Minions primary purpose is to cast them and then have them explode
They have enough hp to take 1 or two hits before die and their dps is higher if you just suicide them right away
My suggestion is to make it easier to use the minion explosion. When you tell the minions to go and explode they chase down their target and explode once they are in range instead of just exploding where they are.
however if you have no target they just explode where they are
reasoning people might actually try to use bone minions then seeing as the damage would much more reliable
Now for the blast finisher have the blast finisher effect happen at the necromancer’s location instead of the bone minion’s this will help with positioning the blast finisher

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Posted by: Iceflame.5024

Iceflame.5024

Disagree.

First the idea of a skill acting differently if you have a target and if you don’t will not work since we have autotargeting anyways. Currently I am in full control of when I want to blow them up. If we take your version of them chasing and blowing up on contact, then it would lead to more unreliable situations where you aren’t even in control of the explosions anymore as opposed to now. The blast finisher should stay at where the minions are, if you want to blast upon yourself just summon and blow them up instantly.

They’re made to be blown up anyways and are actually quite a good chunk of burst and death nova adds poison + weakness to it which is quite nice.=)

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

Invictus.1503

The only real fix they need is to respond quicker (they often delay their attack by quite a few seconds) and their pathing. This would put them into the battle so when you blow them up it is effective. That is all.

I wouldn’t mind getting a third one though, like back in the beta.

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Posted by: Berullos.6928

Berullos.6928

Thing that bothers me with them is they take FOREVER to summon. After a summon, they take like 3-4 seconds to slowly pop from the ground, then they gotta catch up to you. And then the minion AI for them is the absolute worst of any minion. They take the longest to follow the target you’re attacking. Its so dumb.

I don’t like the 1s CD between explosions but I could live with it. I’d prefer no cd between explosions though.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

My proposed change is just having the one lowest on health explode first, not the one closest to you.

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Posted by: Tadsoul.6951

Tadsoul.6951

The only real fix they need is to respond quicker (they often delay their attack by quite a few seconds) and their pathing. This would put them into the battle so when you blow them up it is effective. That is all.

I wouldn’t mind getting a third one though, like back in the beta.

Thing that bothers me with them is they take FOREVER to summon. After a summon, they take like 3-4 seconds to slowly pop from the ground, then they gotta catch up to you. And then the minion AI for them is the absolute worst of any minion. They take the longest to follow the target you’re attacking. Its so dumb.

I don’t like the 1s CD between explosions but I could live with it. I’d prefer no cd between explosions though.

If they fixed response time and summon time i think that would fix most problems i have with getting them on my target to explode but the chasing setting up burst

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Posted by: Chesire.9043

Chesire.9043

Disagree.

First the idea of a skill acting differently if you have a target and if you don’t will not work since we have autotargeting anyways. Currently I am in full control of when I want to blow them up. If we take your version of them chasing and blowing up on contact, then it would lead to more unreliable situations where you aren’t even in control of the explosions anymore as opposed to now. The blast finisher should stay at where the minions are, if you want to blast upon yourself just summon and blow them up instantly.

They’re made to be blown up anyways and are actually quite a good chunk of burst and death nova adds poison + weakness to it which is quite nice.=)

I can see both sides to this.

If you want them blown up mid combat, they stop attacking and then explode and may or may not be close enough to their target to deal damage. If you keep them put away til you want the burst, same deal. The only reason not to have them chase the target is if you want to use them for blast finisher and the only real blast finisher I ever want to use (until Weakness is patched anyway) is with Spectral Wall for chaos armor; unfortunately this one is really hard to land even with a placed ground targeted skill. Trying to land it with a bone minion is even more unreliable.

I like them when they work, but it doesn’t happen often currently.

Also, Tadsoul, this really was my idea. Just saying