i just starting long ago building like 8 diferents builds and all of them total useless agaist like 5 thief, warrior, and mesmers builds. i never can win agaist those builds no mater what i use. so why necro cant beat a well prepared 1v1 build of mesmer warrior or thief?
some dev pls tell me for wat is necromancer class, cose for 1v1 it is prepared like a peanut to fly to the moon.
and gms pls dont ban this thread: This is a real problem.
I play warrior as my main and I got to admit I have been beaten by a necro 1v1 only once. And it felt like a fluke when it happened. In my opinion they are the weakest in 1v1 situations by far and maybe that is something that they need to fix.
u dont use correct build… the problem is necro has not 1v1 correct build…
Would you mind posting your build or at least which weapons/utilities you are using?
I’m really laughing my kitten off right now.
i just starting long ago building like 8 diferents builds and all of them total useless agaist like 5 thief, warrior, and mesmers builds. i never can win agaist those builds no mater what i use. so why necro cant beat a well prepared 1v1 build of mesmer warrior or thief?
some dev pls tell me for wat is necromancer class, cose for 1v1 it is prepared like a peanut to fly to the moon.
and gms pls dont ban this thread: This is a real problem.
Have not seen one of these threads in a while.
Go to the necromancer forums on this site. Check out the tutorials and watch the youtube videos by nemesis. If you pay attention and get something out of it you will learn about the class as he seems to have put more raw hours into actually thinking about the game and the “meta” (I really hate that word used in this way) of how a necro fits into that than any other person posting here. The Ascii build also seems to have merit.
Go read and learn teach yourself by emulating others until you master your “craft” then set out and make it your own.
it took about 15 seconds to type that. You could put in 15 seconds effort to find the information and about 5 hours of looking at it and you will stop complaining about it and either fight for it or quit.
Not every class is superman in 1v1 by the way in every game I have played and that is the way of it. You are not going to change the constants but you can surround them with a variable environment in your perception of them. You may then start to win more.
plp are expert negating others…
but the real facts are real facts. (i played meaby more than you on necro (like 150+ 1v1) and always cant beat like 5 builds. stop the fantasy, this is real)
necro is unbalanced… more than the other classes.
and pls just give me a date or/and a patch note for info about what you are doin on necro, if u rly are doin somthing, we need more about that, rly more.
some guys ll think: im playing bad, and i ll say : How u play bad on this?
and rememb i played like 150+ 1v1 as necro…
WoW, 150+ 1v1s? Really? Well, I got exactly 411 1vX kills on my ranger in about 2 weeks. Believe me, the Necro is a best when specced for 1v1. As I said, please tell us which weapons, equip, traits and ultilities you are using.
Dear OP, just look at utilities like these bad boys, would really love to have something like that on my ranger.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Corrupt_Boon http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Plague_Signet
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_spite http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_Corruption
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_power
yes necro got alot of anti condi but alot of nothing agaist stuns+high sustain condi remobe, like warriors and is rly hard to beat thiefs especialy blind stun thiefs or full evade thiefs… they just pown all your builds…
they just pown all your builds…
Only if you can’t play.
Really, anything you’re saying is utterly wrong… you can’t remove a Necro’s condis…
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Fought a warrior tonight several times in a row. Spent 90% of the time stunned or knocked down. It wasn’t until the 3rd fight that I’d gotten enough LF to actually use DS.
Necro has only one viable build and it’s condition build. You may kill unexperienced players with other builds but their dps is so low. As long as you aren’t berserker(which makes you squishier than an ele), power dps is low. They have to buff power builds’ damages. And there’s easier classes to play, for example warrior and s/x thief. Thief is maybe not that good against necro, but you can easily faceroll a necro with same skill level with warrior cc/stun spam build(hammer/mace shield) pluss 2x invulnerability 1x 8s condition invulnerability.(also invulnerable to fear) It’s easy to play and effective. Warrior requires less l2p issues compared to necro. We have less builds compared to other classes and only “really” viable one for spvp is condition build. And they are still thinking dhuumfire as our main trait, and nerfing all others because of this. Developers see our role as a condition supporter, most weapons have more condition damage and less base damage, no ranged weapon for power builds etc. So I wouldn’t bother making a 100% power build. Make a hybrid build if you want to go some power tree, you can still get the benefit of conditions this way.
Necro has only one viable build and it’s condition build…
No.
You’re heavily underestimating power builds. My guess is that you’ve simply never met a player who can pull it off.
@OP: probably troll.
trait for foot in the grave and stop being dhuumfire noobs. there now your survivability against idiot cc spammers has just increased tenfold.
i recomend put more blind on necro. that ll work agaist stuners alot. but not agaist full evade and speed builds… and cose the marks are an unique thing of necros… why not make them undodgeables?
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I remember being promised real boonhate almost a year ago..
Since then all that has been introduces is more ways to get boons ..So more boons to hate.. i guess Anet kept their promise ^^
I don’t really understand OP’s complaints to be honest, or Umut’s idea that a necro should run a condi-spec to be effective.
I run a power spec, roaming and for zerg, and I consistently kill people of any profession (granted, sitting on 1350 toughness might be a bit squishier than the average condi build). Further, in duels I have never been demolished so fast and consistent as by dhuumfire/terror spec necro (who knows how to play).
OP even talking about more blinds on a necro; besides deathly swarm, well of darkness & plague, my dark fields are one of the few skills I call out on teamspeak for my comrades to blast (or blast myself with putrid mark).
But, by all means, do buff my power necro, I might bring people down in couple of lifeblasts and one dagger auto attack chain.
It’s funny because necromancer’s is stronger 1v1 then he is 1v multiple… you actually are the worst class at 1v multiple…
1v1 you are quite good with 1 major flaw… 90% of the time the opponent can leave fight to prevent defeat… if he realize he faces a superior necromancer on time, it can be too late to leave at one point…
Weird match-up right now…
It’s funny because necromancer’s is stronger 1v1 then he is 1v multiple… you actually are the worst class at 1v multiple…
1v1 you are quite good with 1 major flaw… 90% of the time the opponent can leave fight to prevent defeat… if he realize he faces a superior necromancer on time, it can be too late to leave at one point…
Weird match-up right now…
yea and you dont mention the elite skill were plp just run away from it and make elite skill total useless.
From my experience on 1v1 Servers (where the opponent normally doesnt run away), it heavily depends on the right utility skills and a good trait set. Normally it comes down if i can sustain a good lf generation and if i can avoid the dangerous skills. Under those condtions i beat all classes, but of course thats the tricky part…
The most success i had with the standard dhuumfire condi build (30,20,0,0,20) and utility skills dependend on the enemy class (for example,corrupt boon is really importent if you fight against someone who stacks high amounts of might or extra stun breaker against stun warriors), but i have to say thats one of the easier and more boring builds a necro has access to…
I have the feeling that a proper power necro build is better but harder to play.
I also think that fleshie is one of our better elite skills for 1v1.
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Necro has only one viable build and it’s condition build…
No.
You’re heavily underestimating power builds. My guess is that you’ve simply never met a player who can pull it off.@OP: probably troll.
ive gotten as high as rank 72 with a power build. I can tell you its doable, but any thief worth his weight in salt will take you out of the game completely and you’ll just have to hope that the rest of your team can carry you.
I got a good chuckle out of this thread ^O^. Spvp isnt balanced around 1v1’s. Fighting a necro on-point is hell for most classes.
Berserker necro is powerful and fun to play. It has decent survivability for being a glass cannon. When certain overpowered builds are toned down (healing signet warrior, dire necro, etc) it will be very viable
Sorry, but I am by no means an elitist or consider myself an amazing player.. but Necro is an absolutely amazing class for 1v1. The rate it can apply conditions on enemies is insane. My Necro is kitted in full exotics, so I am by no means maxed, and I rarely have any problems 1v1. I usually win or lose by a small margin, the only time I face issues is if a heavy power build gets the drop on me with a large crit.
Other than that, you shouldn’t be struggling to 1v1.
Hahahahahaha, If you can’t beat people 1 vs 1 as a Necromancer you need to go play Runescape.
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